MPC 4000 questions????

Have any of you had any problems loading your MPC 4000 to it's full memory capacity (512mb)?Does the machine seem to function any slower etc...ALso do any of you use multisamples?How much memory does one multisampled piano or bass etc require.I am currently using an MPC 60 which is fine for sampling and sequencing drums and other external equipment but when it comes to say chopping samples and using longer sounds it runs out of memory quick(it only has 26 seconds of sample time).Also do any of you use the CD drive to archive, backup or what not and exactly how much does one CD hold.Like a 3.5 floppy holds maybe 1.5 mb how many megs can a CD hold.I really like my MPC 60 but I have run out of things to do with it and pretty much everything that I do takes so much longer because of the limited sampling capabilites of the machine.I have used all of the other MPC's and they are great but I am really into sampling any thing and everything and the other models just don't hack it in the sample engine department.The 4000 functions as the other models do but is also a full fledged sampler.You see right know I use the MPC 60 by itself but to do what I want I have to go buy an external sampler.I much prefer having everything in one machine so it makes recalling songs and stuff alot easier because I won't have to load information on 2 or 3 diffrent machines to get my songs to play.I've got about 600 3.5" floppy disk for my MPC 60 and I am starting to lose and misplace good songs and sounds because there are so many of them.

I have loaded my MPC to 512 meg with no problems.
One 74 min CD can hold 650 MB.
As for piano Multi samples space required? That depends on bit rate number of samples.

The MPC 4000 is great. Disregard most of the older coments about the OS. The latest Beta os has fixed many of the problems that plagued the MPC.

I have a boat load of samples loaded up in my 4000,and it's pretty much my only sound source until I have to use sounds like piano,and strings. I usually use my Motif for that. I just began to take advantage of my cd burner,because now i'm archiving my songs every week. As far as how many files you can fit on a cd, it depends on how many samples you have in the song. I've fit as much as 15 tracks on a CDRW. I could probably fit more but being that my main Multi has 12 drum programs in it takes up alot of space. I switched from the 60 also and I have no regrets.

A multi piano can be 200mb.. It depends on how much gamut/key/scales you have and how long the notes are and wich bitrate/samplrate they have.
If you map 76 notes, 1 beeing 1mb (wich is short and high notes are longer than low notes), your multi program is at least 76mb..

I have Rhodes multis from 180mb.. My memory is 400mb and I never run out of memory.

You could always get a rack sampler (S5000/6000 are the best) and load multis into that. They're soooo cheap these days! S1000/2000/3000 models go for 100 to 300 bucks. If I where you, Ill get a S950 for drums and an S5000 for pianos, strings, etc..

Thanks for the info. I am in the process of getting rid of the equipment that I do not want and the MPC 60 is one of them.I really would like to have a MPC 4000, a sound module of some sort(Motif or Triton) my DJ equipment and some means of recording either a roland VS series or a computer and Protools LE.I like to keep it simple and I am very impressed with all that is possible with the MPC 4000 a drum machine,sequencer,full fledged sampler and effects/filters not to mention the 512mb of memory and internal hardrive.

Mmm.. Selling your MPC60? Sure?

Just sell everything you have, but keep the 60! Dont go for Motif or Roland romplers, they re shit!! (Unless you want to make trance and commercial crap) Instead get a fast laptop (Athlon 64 are tha bomb) or a powerbook and a DIGI002rack. It comes with the new Pro Tools and a light version of Reason (Reason 2.5 adapted) and Ableton Live and some plugins. Then buy the VST2RTAS adapter form Fxpansion for Pro Tools and download all the free plugins you can find. Keep the best and whipe the bad
And you are done. 2x MPC + Pro tools and plugins on a laptop is the way to go!
And not so expensive after all.. A Motif and new Roland romplers are too expensive if you ask me.

Lets count for a moment. (euro is somewhat same as USD)
002r: 1200euro
Athlon64 laptop (Acer, Compaq, etc): 1500-2000 euro
vst2rtaswrapper: 75 euro
vst plugins: FREE or ranging from 20 - 500 euro (look at kvr-vst.com)
MPC4000+ adat and HD's and full memory: 1500-2000 (used), 2000-3000 (new)
(Mixer+ monitoring:...)

So, if you got 5000 bucks, you're ready too rock! (Though you can rock on a 60 alone too!)

I am no newbie so I know what I want and what I like.The MPC 60 is cool but it does not suit my style of music using it by itself.I am really not a fan of computers in music other than to record.(Please don't tell me that a VS or AW is a computer I know it is but I have never had one crash or act up on me)I just pretty much like to record my mix sets,make tracks to put on my my mix CD's and to drop in my set.I leave all the technical stuff to the people that know what's up.I usually do beats and what not at the crib and then take my MPC or recording device to a professional studio and track it all out and let them mix down to CD for me.The product always comes out with a professional touch that I really don't care to learn about.I focus on making the music I let the engineers make my music sound good.I have MPC 4000 on the brain right now it's all I can think about.Unfortunately the one that I had access to(and was going to purchase) was stolen along with about $6000 worth of other equipment.I like sound modules they are not expensive to me and the sounds are nice.It's not the sounds that are in a machine that make it "commercial" it's how they are used.I only use sound modules for background stuff I use samples as the meat and potatoes of most of my music.

ikke wrote:A multi piano can be 200mb.. It depends on how much gamut/key/scales you have and how long the notes are and wich bitrate/samplrate they have.
If you map 76 notes, 1 beeing 1mb (wich is short and high notes are longer than low notes), your multi program is at least 76mb..

I have Rhodes multis from 180mb.. My memory is 400mb and I never run out of memory.

You could always get a rack sampler (S5000/6000 are the best) and load multis into that. They're soooo cheap these days! S1000/2000/3000 models go for 100 to 300 bucks. If I where you, Ill get a S950 for drums and an S5000 for pianos, strings, etc..

yo ikke,

where did you get this Rhodes Multi ?
it sounds great having a 180mb multi of a Rhodes...

Made them myself.. Well, not really 'made' them but I sampled my NI Elektrik piano (wich sounds great, btw) using Chainer, Gigastudio and Chicken translator.
It took me some time though.

nice !