Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By SaintAudio87 Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:15 pm
Do i still have to Synch ProTools by MIDI if i have the 8out expander? i know its a stupid question but im having a hard time figuring this out
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By Lampdog Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:28 am
8outs has nothing to do with sync.

8 outs is for tracking out audio.

Midi is the sync I'm guessing you want.
By SaintAudio87 Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:52 am
Ok let me rephrase cus i think im clueless. Ok, My MPC 4000 has 8-out expander my question i guess is what are the steps i need to take to get my sequence in the MPC into protools. Do i need to synch the MPC up with MIDI or since i have the 8 Outs i dont need to.. im really a rook when it comes to this.
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By Lampdog Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:05 am
You can sync with protools or damn near any daw with or without the 8outs installed.

Like I said the 8outs isn't required to sync. 8outs has nothing to do with sync.
By SaintAudio87 Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:26 am
So then what would be the point of synching an MPC with MIDI? if theres no 8 outs on an mpc is that the way to get it in a DAW?
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By Lampdog Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:51 pm
To get your 4k audio into a computer daw....

4k main outs into a computer audio interface inputs.

Inside your computer daw you can select the audio interface inputs to record the left and right main outs from the 4k.

Synching and midi have nothing to do with the 8 outs or main outs. Midi is not audio and doesn't transmit audio, midi is data.
You should read up on midi to get a better understanding of what it can do for you.

http://www.google.com/search?q=midi+for+noobs&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
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By DJ A-Sharp Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:22 pm
SaintAudio87 wrote:So then what would be the point of synching an MPC with MIDI? if theres no 8 outs on an mpc is that the way to get it in a DAW?


As Lampdog said the purpose of your 8-outs is to get audio to your recorded format easier/quicker. Think of the 8-outs like this


MPC4000 8-out 1 kick------------------>Track Input 1 of daw/recoding equipment
MPC4000 8-out 2 snare---------------->Track Input 2 of daw/recoding equipment
MPC4000 8-out 3 hihat----------------->Track Input 3 of daw/recoding equipment
MPC4000 8-out 4 clap------------------>Track Input 4 of daw/recoding equipment
MPC4000 8-out 5 triangle-------------->Track Input 5 of daw/recoding equipment
MPC4000 8-out 6 crash---------------->Track Input 6 of daw/recoding equipment
MPC4000 8-out 7 shaker-------------->Track Input 7 of daw/recoding equipment
MPC4000 8-out 8 808 kick------------>Track Input 8 of daw/recoding equipment

The only thing that 8-out are for is audio.


If all your tracks have only 8 sounds then just push start button to record all 8 sounds sounds into daw however most people have more than 8 sounds in their tracks which means that the 8-outs will have to be tracked out numerous times.

For example, if my song has 24 sounds then that means that I would need something to sync my MPC to Pro Tools so that all 24 sounds play at the correct time in which I programed them in the song on the MPC.

My 24 sounds would mean that I would be tracking 3 passes ("passes" is a studio term). 1 Pass = 1st 8 sounds , 2nd Pass = next (different) 8 sounds , 3rd Pass = last (different) 8 sounds. 3 Passes x 8 sounds = 24 Sounds. That is all provided you don't have a sound or two in stereo. If that is the case you will be doing more that 3 passes.

That syncing will be done by Pro Tools triggering the MPC when to start and finish and also when to trigger the sounds in your track to play at a certain time. The only way that DAWs can trigger is MIDI, MIDI CLOCK & MIDI TIME CODE (MTC) which all are used in music nothing more that to lock multiple pieces of equipment into the same time as eachother . The MPC4000 also has the function of SMPTE (syncing option used by the Motion Picture Association) as well but since you sound like your new to synching stick with MIDI until you get advanced enough to use SMPTE, which I might add I personally find to be alot tighter in locking in the timing of tracking out.

***Side note you can also track out of the main out of the MPC4000 but as you can calculate, with 24 sounds that would be a very lengthy tracking session and in addition you would have to keep assigning each sound to L (left) and R (right) of the main outs so that they can play solo. Some such as myself track out this way because there seems to be a difference in the sound quality that comes out of the main outs.***

Google for more info on this and everything else I said if you need more info.

Hope I was able to help.

PEACE!!!