im a mpc 2000xl guy with a question for you mpc 4000 guys.

Ok somedays i feel smart but it only turns out that ill still say something dumb....well lets see what happens.

Because the mpc 4000 is 24/96 and the mpc xl is 16/44.? the 4000 is gona sound way better which is true but if you sample lets say a horn from a record into the 4000 and 2000 xl the same sample when played back it should sound better coming out the 4000 but what if i use that sample and played it from the 2000 xl into my sound card thats 24/96 in and out wouldnt it now sound the same as the 4000 playing the sample alone....the reason why i ask this is because a cd or record can be no higher that 16 bit and to me thats means the 4000 and 2000 are in the same ball park as far as what go into them both but when it comes its a different story but if i used a sound card for my xl when i spit out that 16 bit sample i feel maybe it should sound as good as the 4000 when it just spits it out by itself....but like i said sometimes i feel smart but still say dumb sh*t. Holla back!

Basically, the main advantage of 24 bit is got from recording things with large dynamic range such as vocals, guitars, etc - if all you do is sample beats and pieces from CDs and records, you wont really gain any benefit from 24/96, and you'll have to run all your music through sample rate conversion if you ever want it onto CD which will lead to a degredation in sound.

yea i was meaning to say that too that the on 4000 the 24/96 thingy would only be good reocording do samples that was live or mic. So yea ok so i was right the 24/96 is no big thing unless your samples came from something live when sample. i dont want to step on nobody toes i just want to see that my mpc 2000 xl is still the shizznet for me.

^as long as it makes you feel better^
please quit torturing yourself and get a 4k, the advantages go far beyond 24/96, which by the way kicks @ss. This machine is even better than you fear. I understand first thing you gotta do is getcha money straight. But keep working at it. I look foward to the day when Keys and the rest of you "question marks" get up in the 4k forum for the reals

oh no im in no rush to get a 4000 dog...i got enuff fire with a motif and 2000xl and pro tools..ill never buy a 4000 if i cant make money off what i got now...all of this came out my pockets so the goal now is to flip it so if im ever in this forum then yall all know. I dont want to step on no toes i just had a question about something its not that real.

I feel you playboy, get that money

thanks man

ABOUT THE XL ITS GOOD BUT THE SAMPLE QUALITY IS NOT ALL THAT GREAT BELLEVE ME I HAD ONE AND FOR PROOF CHECK THE 2000,3000 AKAI RACK MOUNTS THE SAMPLE QUALITY IS BETTER THE MPC IS COOL BUT NOT A STAND ALONE SAMPLER.........LIKE THE 4000

I have the 4000 and I leave it in 16 bit
if the sample is muddy/dirty its basically gonna stay dirty and nothing will help
audibly you will not notice much change between 16/24 bit but you would notice say 12 bit SP1200 samples from 16 bit mpc on the whole

every bit that you actually doubles the sound quality. thats just how bits work. But 16 bits is pretty high definition already. So the difference is nominal. but if you record at low levels for some reason it will help you out, or as someone else said if there is alot of dynamics, the lower level parts will be more defined in the AD conversion.

I often come on Here and read the posts that alot of yall put up here but one thing that yall must understand and alot of yall already do... Dont worry about what kind of machine u have... dont worry about what the 4000 has that the 2000 dont...what the 3000 has that the 2000 dont... what the 1200 has that the 2000 dont, the 2000 is unique in its own way. Think about it... when there was no 4000, 2000(xl), 3000... true producers made the best music with the 1200, 60, 900+950, and the sound was just as pretty as anything pumpin out today. From these machines we sought to make life easier... so hence we have the lastest machine out today which is the 4000 !!! Its like in the beginning you heated your food and drinks(tea, coffee) with the stove... they needed a way to make things a little easier not better but easier...so they came with the microwave. What i am saying to all you young gods is that if u are true to your belief in your creativiity and love for the machine u bless.... work on what u got and i am telling u ... majority of peeps out there with newer machines wont be able to touch your work. I started with the ASR-x, one of the most complicated and less understood machines to get as a beginner and i mastered it because i loved my music and what i could create. Within 2 years i purchased the 1200 and than the 2000xl... i laughed at how simple these machines where compared to the X. The 1200 dirty 12 bits filters are unique and easy as cake to master... The 2000xl basically grabs your hand and walks you across the street so to learn that machine is a joke(the basics to sampling). Long winded convo ... i know...but here is the analysis... There is no sampling machine in the market like the ASR-X for its filtering and effects(u cant tweak no machine from a sample the way the X allows u too)... the mpc 2000xl sequencer is a killer when compared to the X or the 1200, no comparison and the midi control the 2000 has, user friendly applications make it a monster to have.... need not much to say about the 1200, its dirty ny street sound cant be duplicated, i dont care if any machine can bring a sample down to 12bits(still dont have the 1200 filters) it just wont happen. The layed back style of the 1200, the no rush faders and gruesome outcome of a beat makes it unique. So no matter what u got at home ...its all in your heart, u dont believe me... ask how many (including self) new and old producers have had hits on the radio or just out in the street... not many. So the Ultimate Drum/ Sample machine is in your heart.

man i look at how many people even look at this i think its up there right now....i never wanted to make this a 2000 xl vs 4000. i just was thinking about something one day when i was playing something into my sound card that supports 24/96. so i had to ask the question i really think that the mpc-tutor answer it but then i start to see everybody give me why this or why that.....i thank yall all.

what many of yall forget
many of the best records were made with shitty samplers like Korg DSS1 or SPs but they were running sounds through Massive neve and SSL desks and using state of the art compression..
many NYC rap 12s were made in places like chung king in NYC or places with very very expensive desks (mixers) evenn though the samplers were not state of the art like today
Huge sounds can be tapped from these resources no matter HOW shitty your sample qualities were
but today Mackies and decent samplers still cannot compare to HUGE sounds like the current set ups in NYC and LA studios
trust me you really notice this when you play out the records in clubs