Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By djflash Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:29 am
this weekend i bought the mv8000 and the mpc4000.it may sound redundant
but there are dif things that i like about both of them.i have to say the manual
that came with roland is a lot easier to get around.im glad i found this forum cause it seems like people know whats up here and im sure i will learn alot.peace
By SuunAq Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:31 am
Yo it's Illustrator, I wanna change my name at the nation but I don't wanna lose my posts again...

By djflash Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:41 am
whats up man.tryin to get some more input on this huge purchase i made :oops:

By Altopiano Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:00 am
hy djflash welcome and congrats ... to the 4k :lol: .... yo and to the mv naturally too. excuse the question - but why both? .... i just once bought 2 things in one day ... and i sweared myself never to do that again! ... that time i wanted hall for my place here ... so i bought a lexicon mpx 550 and .... it was cheaper anyway ... a behringer virtualizer 2024. .... and from day 1 on that virtualizer is just not gettin used here ... if i want hall i get it from the lexicon, do i need chorus too, flanger, whateva there is on the virtualizer its just not as good as on the lex ... short story - no sense .... wish ya same fun as i got with my lex, and do much better with your mv as i with my behringer ...

peace

By djflash Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:13 am
i wanna do a live set.i produce electronic music.i think having the 2 beasts at a gig will be more live than doin the laptop thing.ive already started a tune using the mpc for only drums and the mv doing everything else.i love the echo on the roland.its like a old space echo.take care

By Altopiano Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:32 am
hot combo for sure! good luck
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By young_keyz Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:06 am
Altopiano wrote:hot combo for sure! good luck



Not dissing you but how is that a hot combo. All he is doing is using the mpc for its drums and the mv as a seq. This cost about 5 gees to do this. To me that was a waste of money.
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By Blue Haze Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:30 pm
If you got the money why not be a jack of all trades. I would too like most major producers learn on as much gear as possible. But it may take longer to master everything or even one if you work with many.

Time and understanding of what you have is a precious resource.

Its not the gear it the man understanding how to use the gear.


Maybe a mpd pads, electrotribe, and MV 8000 would be an alternative or MPC 2k, Yamaha R2, and MC909 sequenced up. Two 4ks and a dj mixer.


I prefer to use song mode myself.
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By ikke Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:37 pm
I think its great to use an MPC for drums and the MV for melodies. Tho the 4k maybe a bit to extended for just the drum section.. :o
I think a 60 or 3000 is more suitable for this. But hej. If you got the cash,... :wink:
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By The-Shadow Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:05 pm
Congrats on the purchases. I'll admit I find it redundant also, but as long as you can swing it and owe nobody nothing, do it. You shouldf not have a need for other equipment for a while still. Both units are so versatile you should be able to take any track in your mind and put it down with relative ease.

Enjoy and compose well..

Peace.
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By young_keyz Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:54 pm
just holla at me first once come to understand you dont need two and want to put one of them on ebay!

By jonespnice Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:10 am
Hey that's a pretty cool combo and if you got the money, cool.
The only advice I would have given you would be to wait alittle longer before getting the MV because the price keeps going down and you could have gotten it cheaper 3-4 months from now.
Peace.

By Altopiano Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:22 am
young_keyz wrote:
Altopiano wrote:hot combo for sure! good luck


Not dissing you but how is that a hot combo. All he is doing is using the mpc for its drums and the mv as a seq. This cost about 5 gees to do this. To me that was a waste of money.


fairly simple ... a 4k and an mv is imo a hotter combo as a 4k or an mv alone ... and so are many others ... despite that i like gear ... no music instrument i ever bought left my place here and 90 % is gettin regularly used ... i probably wouildn't choose an mv to ad to my setup but surely wouldn't mind if i had one ... and djflash seems to have made up his mind on how to use them both .... mpc for drums, mv for everythin else ... never planned to go that way myself but still ... that sounds ok to me ... never heard some mv fxs yet, but i m sure they are ok ... just got one roland synth here and imo its effects are really good too ... those are one of the little internal effects i really like to use ... so its all good ...

moreover ... lately i been using my 4k as a multitracker to record some friends here ... and i would desperately just need either some more rams or auditioning from hd ...

where i m gettin sceptic are 2 things:

1. whether its a good decision to buy 2 things in one day ... especially if they do similar things .... might happen that you just spent time to use and learn one whilst not finding time and use for the other .... i couldn't appreciate my virtualizer coz i just liked the lexicon better ... if i would have bought it half a year later at least when i bought it i would have used it ... and in that case it just were some fx-units ..... dunno bout flahs experience with mpcs but imo the mpc and the mv are 2 monsters and it might take some time to master each of them ...

2. hardwaresequencers ain't for everyone:
got a friend i session with regularly ....he is into electronic music since the late 80s, buiklding his own external fxs and samplers and he was enthusiastic about the 4k when it came out ... meanwhile he ain't anymore coz he misses things on the 4k his softseq can do ... i fully understand him coz i see the way he worx on the pc and on the 4k ... its just not suited to how he does his stuff ...

despite that its always nice to see that there are still some crazy people outthere that buy gear .... some even get a 4k and an mv in one day! .... can ya believe :lol: dang every other day i find myself involved into some senseless discussions with some friends here at my place that argue that pcs or macs or whateva else is the way to go ... and at the same time i see that
1. they know that the 4k has pads and not much more
2. they dont know the difference between a c and a d and a 3/4 or a 4/4 and
3. their shit is crashing all the time ... past 3 days i sessioned with a friend on his fabolous new ableton and that pc - no joke and no surprise either .... crashed 3 times per session ... my 4k last crashed on os 1.33 ... no way that i will slave it to that dizzy ableton just to hear the presets of some new plastic his sequencer ain't even able to handle ...

yo and a comment to gear and setup discussions ... imo there are 2 things which are always gettin mixed up but shouldnt - one thing is to talk about music and another to talk about money ... and i m not interested in the second discussion at all ...

peace and bangin beaz

By adrian Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:30 am
I got My 4000 with an extremely discounted price over a year ago and I still can't afford to buy some new gear yet. And you went and bought 2 monster units.

By pUs Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:09 am
adrian wrote:I got My 4000 with an extremely discounted price over a year ago and I still can't afford to buy some new gear yet. And you went and bought 2 monster units.


Different people have different needs. And different size of their wallets too. What's your point?