Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
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By Is this thing on? Thu May 26, 2005 10:23 pm
I don't think you can advance this thing anymore in its current format. My experience of using this thing, is that it's kinda bustin' open at the seams and that it is pushing the boundarys of its ergonomics. It's cool but very fiddley.

By prospect Sat May 28, 2005 9:06 pm
I couldn't agree with you more.

The thing I don't like too much about the 4k is that it takes a few more steps than usual to get ideas going.

I really start to question at this point (if you need all the features of the 4k) why people don't get a powerful laptop and the usb MPC pads (MPD16?)

By Altopiano Sun May 29, 2005 1:36 am
prospect wrote:I really start to question at this point (if you need all the features of the 4k) why people don't get a powerful laptop and the usb MPC pads (MPD16?)


... just sessioned today with a mate who just got those akai pads. he bangs em into a mac and thats all dope - the pads are nice but far from what 4k sequencer section (pad section) is. also the pads and the mac are 2 units, soundcard 3, you still need a mouse 4 ... so you got already 4 pieces there. well each his own ... and i dont agree with the posting argument. ... just make the 4k bugfree and ad some more little things ... there were some things which only need little improvement at this point imo ...

By elmacaco Sun May 29, 2005 4:27 am
I think the akai pads and a laptop is even more busting at the seams than the 4k, too many features to wade through, but at least the 4 k doesn't have driver, virus, and battery life issues. I think no one really has designed a elegant interface that pleases egverybody, but people seem to worry more about features than the user experience.

the mpd 16 only transmit velocity in 16 levels, if they threw in pitch bend maybe they would approach an mpc, but if I under stood the original poster, I don't think the computer is the solution to busting at the seams, it is even more guilty of it.

By fasterbeats Sun May 29, 2005 8:25 am
Why not combine both to get the best of both worlds?
beers pretty good,
bongs are pretty good,
Beers and bongs rock!
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By rookie Sun May 29, 2005 2:38 pm
People who bought the 4k knew what they wanted and how they work,with the laptop & pads you still have to choose a sequencer,find drums,be able to customize your drums,and your not truly sampling either,software samplers only load sounds.give me the 4k any day.

By elmacaco Sun May 29, 2005 3:49 pm
One thing's for sure, they can't put much more into an MPC than the 4000 without having some ergonomic and UI genius working with them.

I had a discussion about this recently, basically my arguments are below:

Hardware is less likely to become obsolete than software. Software products are always updating, changing, computers themselves are also changing, getting rid of certain ports and moving to new protocols, how long will USB be around? Will companies port their drivers to the new OS's for recently discontinued products? Or will they let out the new batch of hardware controllers and leave the old ones in the dust? That's obsolete. Ideally you are right, but the reality is that it puts the musician in a state of constant change, requiring costly soft and hardware updates, and prevents the level of mastery that traditional instruments require and is also possible with hardware.

Software that came out in 98 cannot run on the new OSs, and just try to sell it to anyone to reinvest that money into new equipment. Computers are much more disposable, planned obsolescence is really the name of the game with computers. Control surfaces might improve the computer as instrument aspect, but even they suffer from being absolutely useless in the not so distant future, all it takes is a driver to not be updated for a new OS.

On the other hand, look at old hardware, still in wide use, by pro's and amateurs, as long as it makes noise it is not obsolete,
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By rookie Sun May 29, 2005 8:18 pm
elmacaco wrote:One thing's for sure, they can't put much more into an MPC than the 4000 without having some ergonomic and UI genius working with them.

I had a discussion about this recently, basically my arguments are below:

Hardware is less likely to become obsolete than software. Software products are always updating, changing, computers themselves are also changing, getting rid of certain ports and moving to new protocols, how long will USB be around? Will companies port their drivers to the new OS's for recently discontinued products? Or will they let out the new batch of hardware controllers and leave the old ones in the dust? That's obsolete. Ideally you are right, but the reality is that it puts the musician in a state of constant change, requiring costly soft and hardware updates, and prevents the level of mastery that traditional instruments require and is also possible with hardware.

Software that came out in 98 cannot run on the new OSs, and just try to sell it to anyone to reinvest that money into new equipment. Computers are much more disposable, planned obsolescence is really the name of the game with computers. Control surfaces might improve the computer as instrument aspect, but even they suffer from being absolutely useless in the not so distant future, all it takes is a driver to not be updated for a new OS.

On the other hand, look at old hardware, still in wide use, by pro's and amateurs, as long as it makes noise it is not obsolete,

By glide Mon May 30, 2005 9:46 pm
Is this thing on lol ...the funniest nick I´ve heard ..

well in my own opinion the mpc is only as advanced as you are...
By gadgetboy Tue May 31, 2005 7:42 am
I spoke to numark uk last week and I was told by one of the akai guys that by the end of this year there will be another 2 mpc's. one between the 1000 and 2000 AND a step up from the 4000 to compete with the mv8000!!

Any speculation on spec would be cool!

I'll try them again soon to find some more details

By elmacaco Tue May 31, 2005 4:48 pm
if they make a MPC 1200 I'm gonna shoot somebody.
By renegadebliss Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:27 pm
gadgetboy wrote:I spoke to numark uk last week and I was told by one of the akai guys that by the end of this year there will be another 2 mpc's. one between the 1000 and 2000 AND a step up from the 4000 to compete with the mv8000!!

Any speculation on spec would be cool!

I'll try them again soon to find some more details



Well hopefully they do it right, becasue MANY MANY MANY MANY parts of the MV 8000 is a Step DOWN from the MPC 4000. I'm not saying that their aren't parts of the MV 8000 that is a step up, but there are too me MANY MANY MANY more things that are a step down
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By Is this thing on? Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:42 pm
[/quote]Is this thing on lol ...the funniest nick I´ve heard ..

well in my own opinion the mpc is only as advanced as you are...

I'm not saying it's not advanced, far from it. It's just fiddly