Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
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By saintjoe Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:34 pm
Anybody got it, I bought my 4k second hand, from someone who bought it from a store that was going out of biz....all I got was the machine and manuals...

I've heard people say it wasn't all that, but i'd still like to get my hands on it to judge for myself...., don't know why akai can't make this available.

By foge1 Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:10 pm
yep. same I would like to get it too.
mpc didn't even have the manuals!
argh!
geoff

By Sovereign Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:35 pm
Why not just ask the question

Hey guys what was on the original MPC disk?

Most versions of 4k shipped with 2 disk and a non-functional multi-lingual manual that tells you to use the PDF.

1 disk had the sound library which was also pre loaded on your 4k HD and a disk with ak.Sys on it.

So in conclusion you should have had the library already on the HD, and would still have to download the last version of ak.Sys from the Akai site.
Plus the only way to have a functional 4k manual is to get a 3" binder then download and print each version and addendum, while putting them in a functional order.
That's the only way to have all the 4k info, changes and features covered in a manual.

Believe me you aren't missing a thing.
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By saintjoe Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:18 pm
yeah, I hear you, only, my 4k didn't have anything on the hd when I got it besides the previous users beats, no original data.
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By feline1 Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:32 pm
The CD-ROM is called something like "AkaiProVol.0" It had a few fairly good and usuable samples on it, although NOTHING that was really programmed up to show the full 96/24 & modulation matrix potential of the machine.
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By saintjoe Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:38 pm
yeah, thanks, I believe you....but there may be something I could use...

I contacted akai support, they will send me the disc...

thanks everyone

By Sovereign Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:14 pm
boomspot wrote:Here's a copy of the original factory cd. It's 440.5mb so dial up users beware. :wink:

Text File:
Http://www.breakdigger.com/mpc4000/Akaipro_Vol_0.txt

Disc copy:

Http://www.breakdigger.com/mpc4000/Akaipro_Vol_0.tgz


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Let's make it mysterious, I have a disk that called Vol. 0b. :lol: :lol:

Seriously I have owned so many different samplers that it's too many to list and I still haven't heard a library worth using from the manufacture except EMU.
I hope it has some use for you once you receive it.
Something about someone sampling for me never sounds right (ear wise).
Just like people were excited about ATB sample CD yet non of the samples on there sound the same way they sound if I listen to the actual record.
They lack too much compared to the original, kinda puts the sampling techniques they used in question.
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By AWW_NAWW Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:07 pm
I have the MPC FACTORY 4K file its 1.22gb in size. Its what was on the demo 4ks at places like GC and SAM ASH. it has multies, drums, and a demo file. If they would have put this file on the hard drive of every 4k that that came out it would have put the machine way over the top and people that sold theirs because it had a hige learning curve would have kept it.
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By feline1 Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:01 pm
Well I am at home now so have the CD-R in front of me.

The "Demo 16M" folder is Akai's factory demo for the MPC4000 (~16MB in size) - it's in that cheesy jazz-muso style that I'm sure we'll all groan at.
It's got a multi, a bunch of programs (drums, piano, bass, strings, thunder... ;-) and a sequence to play them.

The "Drums" folder has a few kits in - they're all fairly pristine and recorded (on an MPC4k? I dunno) with clarity... not quite my bag, but I guess it's always easier to scuzz up a clean sound than it is to clean up a grotty one.

The "GM Sounds" folder has samples for the General MIDI stock sounds, both drums, keys and instrument sounds. If you really need that General MIDI "goblins" patch well here's on for you...

The "Keyboard sounds" folder was the one I found the most useful -
it's got some very usuable Wurlitzer & Fender Rhodes electric piano samples, a selection of MiniMoog and ARP Odyssey ones, a Hammond B3 and an acoustic guitar.
If you're an analogue knob twiddler like me, you will scoff somewhat at static samples of a Hammond or a minimoog, where you can't tweak the sound like on the real instrument, but nonetheless, these instruments sound so good that even a static sample of them can be musically useful (and you can modulate it more with the MPC4000's sampler engine) -
the "miniMoog No.9" one a rather thick 3VCO unison blast that I've used myself on a few tracks. The Wurlitzer too.

Finally the "Thunder" folder seems to just be the same thunder that is already in the "Demo 16M" folder, the fact that it's duplicated at top level just to me showed the sort of shoddy arse-from-elbow guff that was going on at Akai back in 2002....



On my 4K's harddrive back in 2002 (UK retailer), I also got:
- "24 bit drums" - the only samples that were actually 24 bit in the whole library!
- The Akai S5/S6k Vol1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and "spendid piano" and "splendid drum" libraries.
- the "MPC Vol. 1" library that came with the MPC3000XL, which includes all the factory sounds for the MPC60, MPC3000 and MPC2000.
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By saintjoe Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:43 pm
feline1 wrote:Well I am at home now so have the CD-R in front of me.

The "Demo 16M" folder is Akai's factory demo for the MPC4000 (~16MB in size) - it's in that cheesy jazz-muso style that I'm sure we'll all groan at.
It's got a multi, a bunch of programs (drums, piano, bass, strings, thunder... ;-) and a sequence to play them.

The "Drums" folder has a few kits in - they're all fairly pristine and recorded (on an MPC4k? I dunno) with clarity... not quite my bag, but I guess it's always easier to scuzz up a clean sound than it is to clean up a grotty one.

The "GM Sounds" folder has samples for the General MIDI stock sounds, both drums, keys and instrument sounds. If you really need that General MIDI "goblins" patch well here's on for you...

The "Keyboard sounds" folder was the one I found the most useful -
it's got some very usuable Wurlitzer & Fender Rhodes electric piano samples, a selection of MiniMoog and ARP Odyssey ones, a Hammond B3 and an acoustic guitar.
If you're an analogue knob twiddler like me, you will scoff somewhat at static samples of a Hammond or a minimoog, where you can't tweak the sound like on the real instrument, but nonetheless, these instruments sound so good that even a static sample of them can be musically useful (and you can modulate it more with the MPC4000's sampler engine) -
the "miniMoog No.9" one a rather thick 3VCO unison blast that I've used myself on a few tracks. The Wurlitzer too.

Finally the "Thunder" folder seems to just be the same thunder that is already in the "Demo 16M" folder, the fact that it's duplicated at top level just to me showed the sort of shoddy arse-from-elbow guff that was going on at Akai back in 2002....



On my 4K's harddrive back in 2002 (UK retailer), I also got:
- "24 bit drums" - the only samples that were actually 24 bit in the whole library!
- The Akai S5/S6k Vol1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and "spendid piano" and "splendid drum" libraries.
- the "MPC Vol. 1" library that came with the MPC3000XL, which includes all the factory sounds for the MPC60, MPC3000 and MPC2000.


wow...i'd love to get hold of all of those.....are the 24bit drums acoustic? i'm looking for some good acoustic drum samples....
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By saintjoe Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:44 pm
AWW_NAWW wrote:I have the MPC FACTORY 4K file its 1.22gb in size. Its what was on the demo 4ks at places like GC and SAM ASH. it has multies, drums, and a demo file. If they would have put this file on the hard drive of every 4k that that came out it would have put the machine way over the top and people that sold theirs because it had a hige learning curve would have kept it.


really?...mmmmmmmmmmmmm

guess that's what happens when you buy second hand....you miss out on the goodies.

By boomspot Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:05 pm
My post above has a direct link to download the factory disk. Check it out.

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By saintjoe Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:07 pm
thanks, will do!!