Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By metro williams Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:15 pm
Hey

Can anyone recommend where I could download or purchase any absolutely pro-quality multi-sample programs for my Akai MPC 4000?

I have practically all the Hollow Sun sounds but that's just the problem. Now all I have is retro sounds. I want some new colour to my pallete. Some new weapons of choice for my arsenal.

I have been looking around but it seems nowadays everything is made for the software sampler.

I guess what I am looking for is absolutely pro quality multi-sample sets that cut through the mix and can give my tracks a touch of the future sound as my Hollow Sun library already gives it a taste of the retro.

Metro
By MPC 4 ME Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:14 pm
I think Metro Williams should use Retro Sounds. :)


All foolishness aside, I don't think you're gonna find lots of "quality" Z4/8 akp programs. Thats because theres not much made for commercial purposes. Your best bet will be S5000/S6000 Akai sample libraries. Or you could do it more manually by converting other popular libraries to z4 programs with the use of Extreme Sample Converter or Chickensys Translator, etc


Heres a tip: get some Reason refills and extract them with the (unsupported, illegal) Refill Unpacker. Now use a converter program to convert the unpacked NNXT patches to Akai S5k/Z4 patches and drag them to your MPC4000 or burn them onto a cd-rom. You can convert VSTi plugins as well as hardware synths and keyboards. You just need the correct conversion software. There's Sample Robot (Windows only), Chickensys Translator, Extreme Sample Converter, etc...
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By joselinno Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:09 pm
What kind of sounds are you looking for?

Bass Legends got some decent basses
Miroslav is a good choice for classical instruments or VSL if u have a lot of money to spend on this. Try also Ultimate String Collection.
I like Vintage Time Traveller, a versatile library with keys, guitars, basses, etc...
Magnetica has lots of oldies keyboards, Post Organ Toolkits is very good too
Quantum Leap Rare Instruments is good for ethnic staff like sitar, kalimba, etc
If you are looking for pianos, Stenway Grand Piano or Miroslav works fine
Steve Stevens Guitar Collection has lots of multi guitars but it´s too heavy for me (I prefer those oldies crunchy sounds from 70s)

Most of this libraries use to be in S1000 or S3000 format, you can read them from your 4k CD drive or you can extract them with CDXtract or Tranlator and them make .akp progs if you like to use aksys

Have fun!
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By McSmooth Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:42 am
It's too bad there weren't Z specific libraries, guess the market wasn't there since the sampler didn't sell. I wonder if people would pay for kits that took advantage of its power? In reality the Z format doesn't differ too much from S5/6000 AKP programs other than the 24/96 ability. I believe the main improvements were the filter choices and the modulation matrix. I think the best bet for expoilting those would be to design synth kits that have extensive control. We already know you can make some cool patches that would compete with the MPC5000's synth. If you made use of external CCs (like Nord modular) and pair it with a MIDI controller, you could come up with a set of standard CCs to effect common parameters and develop a fun, tweakable synth library. Other than that, you could do complex kits with over 4 velocity layers, not sure if there are any Akai sample kits out there that do this (but I know other sample formats do).
By anand Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:33 pm
I think Metro Williams should use Retro Sounds. :)


All foolishness aside, I don't think you're gonna find lots of "quality" Z4/8 akp programs. Thats because theres not much made for commercial purposes. Your best bet will be S5000/S6000 Akai sample libraries. Or you could do it more manually by converting other popular libraries to z4 programs with the use of Extreme Sample Converter or Chickensys Translator, etc


Heres a tip: get some Reason refills and extract them with the (unsupported, illegal) Refill Unpacker. Now use a converter program to convert the unpacked NNXT patches to Akai S5k/Z4 patches and drag them to your MPC4000 or burn them onto a cd-rom. You can convert VSTi plugins as well as hardware synths and keyboards. You just need the correct conversion software. There's Sample Robot (Windows only), Chickensys Translator, Extreme Sample Converter,



Where do i get this refill unpacker for Reason refills??? can yall post a link please?
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By joselinno Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:45 pm
anand wrote:Where do i get this refill unpacker for Reason refills??? can yall post a link please?


This program is called RefillViewer
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn´t
You can find it with a simple googling...

Instructions: (txt inside zip is in russian...)
1. you must be using Reason 3.0 or higher
2. place the .exe in the same directory as the orkester refill.

http://www.reasonmusic.ru/files/refill_ ... packer.rar
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By Blue Haze Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:33 am
metro williams wrote:Hey

Can anyone recommend where I could download or purchase any absolutely pro-quality multi-sample programs for my Akai MPC 4000?

I have practically all the Hollow Sun sounds but that's just the problem. Now all I have is retro sounds. I want some new colour to my pallete. Some new weapons of choice for my arsenal.

I have been looking around but it seems nowadays everything is made for the software sampler.

I guess what I am looking for is absolutely pro quality multi-sample sets that cut through the mix and can give my tracks a touch of the future sound as my Hollow Sun library already gives it a taste of the retro.

Metro


Just a thought the biggest sample library by Akai is the S1000 library as it is pretty much universally used by all samplers in the market. A number of companies still release multisamples in this format you still have to set up the program mapping but most of the big sites sell this library. Good luck. :idea:
By metro williams Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:16 am
I picked up Extreme Sample Converter over the weekend to try it out before I buy as this program seemed like the best one to use (converts VSTi soft synths and hardware synths to Akai MPC4K programs).

I tried to follow the useless manual on their website but it was no use.

Now to be honest I am not a very technical guy. As much as I try my brain just puts up barriers to this type of shit (and believe me I f&*%ing try).

I was going to ask if anyone help me with using Extreme Sampler Converter to convert VST soft synths into MPC4K programs (i.e. multi-sampled akp files) then I will repay the favour by sending them a DVD full of drum hits (wav files) that I've painstakingly collected over 8 years. They are broken down into genre and even producer / artist. The categories I have are Modern House, Classic House, Vintage Disco, Hip Hop, RnB, Rock, Future Funk, Groove, Soul/Funk etc..

The categories are then broken down into artist / producer. E.g. under Hip Hop - Timbaland, Premeir, Nas, Beatnuts, Dre etc...

The Future Funk category is fantastic - broken down into artists such as Calvin Harris, Groove Armada, Felix Da Housecat, Chemical Brothers, Metro Area etc..

If anyone if up for this then get in touch
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By saintjoe Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:38 pm
you have to set your output format first. When you want to convert vsts, you have to open up the vst recorder (whatever it's called, not looking at it right now) and pick which keys you want to record and for how long.

Once you hit do it, you will be able to record them into your format of choice. Let me take a look at the demo since I'm not at my house at the moment, so I tell you the exact process.
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By saintjoe Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:47 pm
Okay, this is the process. ( just looked at the demo)

1. Choose your "destination format", either Akai Z4 or s5/6000 akp

destination format > AKP > Z4/Z8 (24bit samples)

2. Chose your "source", for you this will be source format

source format > VSTi Converter

3. Load a vst instrument

4. Chose your keys, and resolution you want to use, apply your effects if you wish, and tweak it how you want it.

5. Go to menu > sampling and name your program and start recording.

That should get you up and going, let me know if you need anymore help.
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By Askia Shaheed Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:11 am
And I thought Akai got out of the sample library business a long time ago but made the Z4/Z8 compatible with Akai S series samples/programs, EMU format, as well as .wav. With so many companies making quality 3rd party libraries, why waste resources? For me, if I am just going to load and playback a sample library...I would just use a sample playback software program....