Talk about the music biz - marketing, promotions, contract law, copyright etc...
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By fasttrackpimp Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:02 am
What's the point of 'once your works created' And technically getting a copyright if it's not gonna hold up in court. It seems pointless to me if you still have to get the paper to clearly state you own the rights to anything.
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By Jacpot Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:08 am
fasttrackpimp wrote:What's the point of 'once your works created' And technically getting a copyright if it's not gonna hold up in court. It seems pointless to me if you still have to get the paper to clearly state you own the rights to anything.
exactly, thats y I said above. ""what type of crack did you smoke today"lol

By 5th Letter Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:52 pm
There's a form you fill out and mail to an office in Washington. I"m not in my studio now, so I don't have all the info. DEFINATELY sign up with ASCAP or BMI. I recommend ASCAP simply because it's free. That's your back end money. How do you know one of the tracks your produce for your artists isn't the next big hit? Also, with samples, there is a 3rd party company that you send your music to. They will find the owner of the copyright, who inturn, will either allow or decline use of thier work. Allowing comes with a price though which varies depending on what/who you sampled. Go get "All you need to know about the music business" by Donald S. Passman. An excellent read that should bring you up to speed on just about everything in the game. Happy hunting!
By DJ Six Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:18 pm
Thinking back to my music business class, if you create a work on your computer, that file is automatically dated and timestamped - information that can't be altered (I do laugh at that) and as such, can (and supposedly, has already) hold up in court in a worst-case-scenario.

So in other words, you create a beat, you track that beat into your DAW, which is a session file dated and timestamped, which is comprised of multiple audio files which are also dated and timestamped. You burn this beat for someone onto a CD, or even give them the entire session file, and they jack it from you. When in court, you would provide the original files which can be linked to your machine (computer forensics) and are dated and timestamped with a date/time earlier than the guy that jacked you.

I'd hafta fish through a ton of books from years and years ago to get you a court case or anything, so this is strictly from memory and could be completely off-base, but just for what it's worth.

ASCAP, BMI, copyright - protect your stuff is the smart move. Lots of good reading out there to cover all of this, but if you got paper just hire a lawyer who knows the entertainment business and let him handle it.
By legend Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:53 am
Ladies and Gentalmen, please just copywrite ur music its just that simple
all this extra shit is not needed
get the form from the copywrite office fill it out the mail the form and ur music off to them
once they send back the copywrite info to you register your tracks to your performing rights organizatoin like ASCAP, BMI, and/or SEASAC
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By wookjr Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:12 am
legend wrote:Ladies and Gentalmen, please just copywrite ur music its just that simple
all this extra **** is not needed
get the form from the copywrite office fill it out the mail the form and ur music off to them
once they send back the copywrite info to you register your tracks to your performing rights organizatoin like ASCAP, BMI, and/or SEASAC



co-sign...

Music Powers is also a good read. Check out the site: www.musicpowers.com

Wook
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By Xandre Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:37 am
Co-sign what legend said, it's that simple.

But I want to go back to the interaction with the artist. Is it necessary to provide them with a contract stipulating your terms (fees, advance, producer points, royalties, writer's/producer's credit)?

And if you don't have a lawyer, do you, the producer essentially have take on the responsibilities of a lawyer?
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By fasttrackpimp Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:19 pm
Yes. It is necessary to put the terms of the agreement in written contract form. If not alot of issues can come up. They might say they didn't agree to paying you royalties, listing you as 'produced by *' and putting someone else there or not even listing it, if it's some kind of label and you get half upfront and half of the artists first check they can just not even pay you the last half. Alot more things could happen. So play it safe and get a contract setup you both agree to, you could find one and try to tweak it to your needs, but it would be best if possible to find a lawyer who can smooth over any rough spot you may have in your terms and make sure the contract(s) is 100% straight.