What seperates the Pro's from the Amateurs?

I was wondering what in your guys opinions separates the professionals like Just Blaze and Kanye West from amateur producers that don't make music part of their careers? I see many great producers all over YouTube and wonder why they aren't as recognized as some of the top dogs in the Biz.

i've wondered this too... i guess once you are talented and good enough to be well-known, it's mostly about connections... if you have friends that rap and you produce for them, and they start getting noticed, you will too.

ask BG about promotion, he knows all about that

The only difference in my opinion is notoriety and money. There are PLENTY of musicians (not just beat makers) that are way more talented than what is currently out. The word professional and amateur get tossed around a bit too much tho. I own a commercial lab and make money on it but I have a job and am going to school for a career non music related. Does that make me an amateur or professional?

that's true, you can still be successful with it even if it isn't your job..

A professional learns every aspect of the job. An amateur skips the learning process whenever possible.

A professional carefully discovers what is needed and wanted. An amateur assumes what others need and want.

A professional looks, speaks and dresses like a professional. An amateur is sloppy in appearance and speech.

A professional keeps his or her work area clean and orderly. An amateur has a messy, confused or dirty work area.

A professional is focused and clear-headed. An amateur is confused and distracted.

A professional does not let mistakes slide by. An amateur ignores or hides mistakes.

A professional jumps into difficult assignments. An amateur tries to get out of difficult work.

A professional completes projects as soon as possible. An amateur is surrounded by unfinished work piled on top of unfinished work.

A professional remains level-headed and optimistic. An amateur gets upset and assumes the worst.

A professional handles money and accounts very carefully. An amateur is sloppy with money or accounts.

A professional faces up to other people’s upsets and problems. An amateur avoids others’ problems.

A professional uses higher emotional tones: Enthusiasm, cheerfulness, interest, contentment. An amateur uses lower emotional tones: anger, hostility, resentment, fear, victim.

A professional persists until the objective is achieved. An amateur gives up at the first opportunity.

A professional produces more than expected. An amateur produces just enough to get by.

A professional produces a high-quality product or service. An amateur produces a medium-to-low quality product or service.

A professional earns high pay. An amateur earns low pay and feels it’s unfair.

A professional has a promising future. An amateur has an uncertain future.

The first step to making yourself a professional is to decide you ARE a professional.

Are you a professional?

If ur a topdog in the bizz it only means u can produce something that can be sold to the mass.

Amateurs and Professionals....they both need each other man...

Thanks to internet, mainly all crazy personal pages...they all been watched by the professionals...to get some ideas...

BackstagePimp

absolute dedication. on top of that, luck.

When speaking about music production.... biz

back in the pre-daw era, there was a real sound quality difference between the two

daw's bridged that gap


though you still need mixing/mastering knowledge or a connect with it to have an industry level radio friendly end result.



Professionals utilize every opportunity and resource available to reach their end goals and satisfy their clients.


Amateurs spend more time 2nd guessing themselves and making excuses of why they "can't" or "didn't" instead of doing what must be done to satisfy their clients.


Professionals find a way and are RELIABLE

BGBEATS wrote:Professionals utilize every opportunity and resource available to reach their end goals and satisfy their clients.


Amateurs spend more time 2nd guessing themselves and making excuses of why they "can't" or "didn't" instead of doing what must be done to satisfy their clients.
RELIABLE

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Lately I have had a chance to be around a fair amount of professional rappers (not producers). The obvious difference is that the professional makes money, the amature doesn't. The less obvious is the day in the life of a proessional. I have been to a session where the artist had to take a 400 mile trip almost instantly after stepping out of the both after his last take. I have seen people who just are realitively shut ins that just work all day long. The diversity of outside projects is getting huge, even with independant artists.

Myself, I am an amature. When I am put into a professional setting, my day can easily be 12 hours and that usually doesn't involve alot of me making beats, just talking, linking up with people, hoping to showcase my music personally or atleast trying to do my best to make someone not forget to listen to my CD on there own.

Basically, don't discount the work of professionals or just chalk it up to oppertunity. I know that people are starting to see me and my dedication, reliablity, work ethic, and how I generally carry myself. From that, I slowly am moving up the pecking order and even that takes A LOT of work.