how much do commersial rappers pay for beats?

alpha80 wrote:

whos the highest paid producer in music, any genre
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That's what I'd like to know !!..... ...Anyone ??

I would say Pharrell. Collabs with artists outside of rap/hiphop garners him good money. Plus the label and his own artists etc etc..

A producers selling power is only as good as word of mouth and your track record. Hence: Story Example


Bedroom Producer - lets call him Albert

Albert enters beats contests makes a little name for himself locally, sells some beats to a label - makes about 3,000 TOTAL for a year....

3-4 years later, the artist gets signed or the beat gets on a mixtape. Albert threatens to sue, but really wants to get his name out - story appears on allhiphop.com or xxl etc.. (insert IceDrake here) you may or may not blow........

There are so many variables but they all lead to getting a "break" Nelly commented how the Neps beats were dirt cheap back in the day, they BLEW with SuperThug -Norega and Nelly came back for more - NOPE beats are higher now, SAME beats...

So Albert, instead of the above:

Gets with local talent, local talent makes radio. Did the beat for free or maybe equipment - no real money involved.

Now- same group blows and gets deal. Albert did about 4 songs on the CD, now the CD is becoming hot and all HIS singles are released.

The group makes friends, now Busta Rhymes wants a beat from Albert- Albert charges him 5K. Busta is cool, he has a decent budget - Albert asked for points too - since the price is so low Busta is cool. Song could make album or could not, well Albert is Lucky - Song makes Album and then Makes soundtrack $$$$$$$$ everywhere from points, royalties and now sync license.

Britney was in the movie and wants to do a song for the soundtrack above, now Britney wants an Albert beat because Busta had been playing the song loud as hell from his trailer (this is all make believe) so Albert is like, hell yeah - "notice" the group he started with, careers have already flourished and gone, Britney likes the beat Albert made he charges her 10K - Britney has a hella budget she insists that he is paid 20K - now it's on, Alberts stock just inched higher.

Albert can now command 5K - 20K for beats, hence Track Record and word of mouth.

Albert is really really lucky, Britneys single goes 3X platinum and the internet is down for 4months so no one downloaded it .

DC comes along with a comeback album, they want 6 of Alberts beats now he gives them a deal 15 X 5 - 75K plus royalties. DC album blows sells 4X, the internet is down again.

Now Albert is being managed by a manager and they are now commanding 50K min for a beat and 3 for 125K...

LONG STORY - but basically this is what happens, all producers/artists are always looking for their next hit - almost like drugs even though they have had hits - hits only keep them alive regardless of content or quality. At the end of the day, the people really decide and of course gross marketing.

nit wrote:i hear the standard is 5k for a beat

that is standard for somewhat unknown producers. that's like the starting rate.


bboutit - good (funny) analogy.

bboutit wrote:A producers selling power is only as good as word of mouth and your track record. Hence: Story Example


Bedroom Producer - lets call him Albert

Albert enters beats contests makes a little name for himself locally, sells some beats to a label - makes about 3,000 TOTAL for a year....

3-4 years later, the artist gets signed or the beat gets on a mixtape. Albert threatens to sue, but really wants to get his name out - story appears on allhiphop.com or xxl etc.. (insert IceDrake here) you may or may not blow........

There are so many variables but they all lead to getting a "break" Nelly commented how the Neps beats were dirt cheap back in the day, they BLEW with SuperThug -Norega and Nelly came back for more - NOPE beats are higher now, SAME beats...

So Albert, instead of the above:

Gets with local talent, local talent makes radio. Did the beat for free or maybe equipment - no real money involved.

Now- same group blows and gets deal. Albert did about 4 songs on the CD, now the CD is becoming hot and all HIS singles are released.

The group makes friends, now Busta Rhymes wants a beat from Albert- Albert charges him 5K. Busta is cool, he has a decent budget - Albert asked for points too - since the price is so low Busta is cool. Song could make album or could not, well Albert is Lucky - Song makes Album and then Makes soundtrack $$$$$$$$ everywhere from points, royalties and now sync license.

Britney was in the movie and wants to do a song for the soundtrack above, now Britney wants an Albert beat because Busta had been playing the song loud as hell from his trailer (this is all make believe) so Albert is like, hell yeah - "notice" the group he started with, careers have already flourished and gone, Britney likes the beat Albert made he charges her 10K - Britney has a hella budget she insists that he is paid 20K - now it's on, Alberts stock just inched higher.

Albert can now command 5K - 20K for beats, hence Track Record and word of mouth.

Albert is really really lucky, Britneys single goes 3X platinum and the internet is down for 4months so no one downloaded it .

DC comes along with a comeback album, they want 6 of Alberts beats now he gives them a deal 15 X 5 - 75K plus royalties. DC album blows sells 4X, the internet is down again.

Now Albert is being managed by a manager and they are now commanding 50K min for a beat and 3 for 125K...

LONG STORY - but basically this is what happens, all producers/artists are always looking for their next hit - almost like drugs even though they have had hits - hits only keep them alive regardless of content or quality. At the end of the day, the people really decide and of course gross marketing.

aye cuzz that shit was comedy homie.....lol, but if its possible then damn, we all need to get up on game someones likely to do somethin,

Greydon Square

alpha80 wrote:

whos the highest paid producer in music, any genre
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That's what I'd like to know !!..... ...Anyone ??

My guess would be the composer john williams who scores movies http://www.who2.com/johnwilliams.html

Rick Rubin.

LL, PE, Beasties, Run DMC, Red Hot Chili Peppers, System Of A Down, Mars Volta, Jay-Z, Johnny Cash, Neil Diamond...etc.

the power of Music is Great
and God created Music to Fuel Existance
Even before Man God created Angels
and Luficer was the Angel of Worship
the cherubim
and he was prideful
and sought to be God
and now the Root of All Evil is Money
and there is a Judas for every Peter

The prices for hip hop start from $5k-$100k
RnB starts at $8k-100k
Some industry cats will start you at $2k if u dont have a discography they say they doin ypu a favor....lol....its up 2 u 2 take it.

the highest I've ever seen someone pay for a beat was a million per beat, and he got three. funny thing it was an artist you've probably never heard of.


but for the big name hip hop cats its generally somewhere around 80k-100k


But you also gotta remeber that these numbers just reflect the advance, or the up front money. This doesn't count the back end money like points on the record and publishing, which is where the REAL money is.

Anybody heard the 2 mill $ beat that Nas bought from Neptunes?

orjanbeats wrote:Anybody heard the 2 mill $ beat that Nas bought from Neptunes?

i don't think it was 2 million.

Yo dat shit was just hype.......the budget for the album could not sustain such nonsense.....and if at all it was 2 be tru then wen i hear dat beat my ears shud get orgazim dats how good it would have 2 be homy.

There might b sumn they not sayn about the deal.....the best cats in the game get 60k-100k up front dat it.

Dat 2 mill might be including publishing.

And no 1 or a label is gonna get a beat 4 a mill+.....

Nemesis wrote:
And no 1 or a label is gonna get a beat 4 a mill+.....

actually, I've seen it for myself. artist bought three tracks at a million dollars a piece.

rickrock305 wrote:

Nemesis wrote:
And no 1 or a label is gonna get a beat 4 a mill+.....

actually, I've seen it for myself. artist bought three tracks at a million dollars a piece.

who?

hoodeu wrote:

rickrock305 wrote:

Nemesis wrote:
And no 1 or a label is gonna get a beat 4 a mill+.....

actually, I've seen it for myself. artist bought three tracks at a million dollars a piece.

who?

wouldn't you like to know, lol. I'll tell you this, you've probably never heard of him.