Talk about the music biz - marketing, promotions, contract law, copyright etc...
By jontakiff Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:15 pm
What's up. It's been forever since I've been on this forum. I've been working on an idea, wanted to see what people think of it.

Okay. I was composing music for some cable channels, and started using my friends' music within the productions because it fit well. I ended up licensing my friends' songs to the stations for a couple of things, splitting the dough 50/50. I had a bunch of music and a decided to start a music "library". I signed about five people and have about 200 tracks.

What I noticed looking at these other library services is that they are just terrible, really bland stock music. So I thought it would be a worthwhile service to have a library that is full of quality material - in fact I think some of the stuff I have is better than what the industry puts out. I'm looking to make a collection of only the hottest material across a range of styles, and pitch the library to people like HBO, Showtime, Indie Films, Commercial Films, etc. TV, etc. I want to try to stick to quality productions as much as possible. I should also mention that my friend made me a java application - it's a music search program, it sits on a hard drive, allows people to search tracks by tempo, style, etc. Very useful tool.

The business part of it I'm still working out so feedback is appreciated. Generally, the deal is a 50/50 split for licensing and I'd retain 25% of the royalties for the placement (i.e. when your song airs on tv or the internet you receive royalties from ASCAP/BMI. I'd retain these royalties ONLY for placements my company makes...anything else you do with the track has nothing to do with me. It's a non-exclusive arrangement.

Second, I'm playing with the idea of allowing "restrictions". This is where it gets tricky. Let's say you made a song and didn't want it on TV. You don't like TV. Or you thought the song was so good that it would ruin it if it was on TV. You could select "I need to clear it" next to the "TV" button under your track when you (hypothetically) submit songs to my company. Then this particular track doesn't get submitted directly to TV stations, instead I keep it on my end for special requests, where you would have to yay or nay the usage.

That's really a lot of info to drop at once - I know I haven't been on here in forever so I apologize. Just trying to get feedback and opinions before I jump into this shizz....
By jontakiff Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:16 pm
I've been really studying music publishing/copyright administration so let me know if you have any questions in that area...

thanks
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By DSTRUCT Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:38 pm
sounds like a great idea, especially if you already have some connections. Id be down to split the dough 50/50, then give you 25% of my royalties, so in my opinion, its a good idea. keep grindin and holla at me if you need any original ish

By KO'LES Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:13 am
I'm not up on all the legal stuff, but it sounds very good to me.
I'm also thinking you would act somewhat as a manager? Yes/No?
Is the service on line now?

By jontakiff Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:03 am
Hey fellas

Dstruction, I've listened to a bunch of your stuff and thought it was great. I'm finishing up re-tweaking the contract with my lawyer so I'll definitely hit you up soon. Can't use anything with samples though. KO'LES, as far as acting as a manager...not really. I mean I'm not booking shows or anything but would be working to place your tracks. The service is not online but I'm working on that too. Thanks for the replies, I'll keep you posted...

By KO'LES Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:03 am
Cool, I haven't got any tracks worth listening to, but I'm workin' on it.
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By DSTRUCT Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:38 pm
jontakiff wrote:Hey fellas

Dstruction, I've listened to a bunch of your stuff and thought it was great. I'm finishing up re-tweaking the contract with my lawyer so I'll definitely hit you up soon. Can't use anything with samples though. KO'LES, as far as acting as a manager...not really. I mean I'm not booking shows or anything but would be working to place your tracks. The service is not online but I'm working on that too. Thanks for the replies, I'll keep you posted...



thanx man, i got a gang of tracks with no samples as well. Im pretty nice on the keys yo. holla at me lets get this crackin

By dax917 Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:26 pm
Dstruction, I've listened to a bunch of your stuff and thought it was great. I'm finishing up re-tweaking the contract with my lawyer so I'll definitely hit you up soon. Can't use anything with samples though. KO'LES, as far as acting as a manager...not really. I mean I'm not booking shows or anything but would be working to place your tracks. The service is not online but I'm working on that too. Thanks for the replies, I'll keep you posted...



What do you mean by samples exactly? I'm asking because my brother in-law Dj Tuche did that song "ohh La La" that was all over WB11 and Cartoon Network in between the cartoon advertisements as well as the store too. Its samples but chopped up so well you can't tell where its from, but the groove worked and he got paid LOTS. Question is: is the no-sample law bendable at all or is it just strict??

By kcv2020 Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:56 pm
*subscribes for later*

i like the idea
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By Ainz Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:23 am
Just found this while searching.....What ever happened with this? Anyone know? Seems like a good enough idea...

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By djmrmystic Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:27 pm
original...keep us posted. I like the idea.

By OCTAIN Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:52 am
yeh that sounds cool... keep us informed...