Talk about the music biz - marketing, promotions, contract law, copyright etc...
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By EducatedHands Sat May 10, 2008 2:39 am
Interesting idea, I was told if, for example you had an album you wanted to sell with samples and stuff, there's nothing illegal about selling a cd case for $10 with a "free" cd included of your music.

i've solved sampling issues for all. you're welcome.
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By Zookey2500 Sat May 10, 2008 3:33 am
Mannn.... that is sounds absolutely 100% correct. And it's so simple, can't believe the industry hasn't taken to this

Ain't nothing wrong with selling, a 'CD case' and including a free cd for free



Problem is you won't get paid for the music and get royalties and sh*t like that, without authorizing the samples.

That's the catch 22. You'll get paid. (for the cd case, but not the music, and therefore don't own publishing, royalties, etc.

But this advice will/can relieve a lot of stress for those huslin to get that paper and their heat heard on the streets without worrying about the samplin police knocking on your door... But a good way to, get your stuff heard using samples, without paying for/clearing them up till that point when you'd be more in the business of dealing with selling music and not huslin CD cases with your 'free cd'.
But if you can do it on a large scale, it could be just as profitable as 'selling music', specially if you cut out a major label for distribution. I heard an artist only gets back $1 on a cd sold for $15. And then gotta use those earnings to pay back the advance money from the label. You end up with next to nothing with selling your album. This is how the labels would profit, so with cd sales declining, they ain't making that money no more. Artist still are though, with getting spins on the radio and through that system of things.

File sharing, and digitizing of music to the internet is only killing the labels from profiting on selling a material good (the cd), but it's helping artists and producers on a huge scale. Before the internet, the only way to hear anyone was a cd,tape,record,word of mouth,tv,etc And it was hard(er) to network. Today.. Myspace, youtube, all these forums, websites and cross-promoting on websites, and all for CHEAP or free. It is much more artist, producer, people friendly in the music scene on the whole in general. The creative individual has more control these days, and is not at the mercy of the label (which is only like a bank that gives you a loan to sell and distribute, same as getting a mortgage, they believe in you that you'll pay it back)

The best way to hustle is digitally through the net and completely cut out any labels, cause their promoting, support, and distribution is not needed. Or sell your music directly to the radio stations or Djs, so they can use it to draw audiences for marketing of other products, like tv shows for airing commercials.
It's to difficult to control the general public from copying cd's, sharing and playing music, but it can still be controlled in terms of using it over the radio and on tv, as well as on the net, meaning someone playing your music on a website to promote and sell thier product is no different then tv or radio.
ahh, enough rambling.. gotta roll something up
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By Audissey Sat May 10, 2008 4:31 am
used to sell mixtapes like that.

all the latest hits and they had a sticker inside. i was selling the stickers for 10 bucks and the cd was free ;-)

its still illegal in someway shape or form but so is pretty much everything nowadays.
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By jaem Wed May 14, 2008 8:17 pm
beat street in downtown brooklyn used to do that.......free mix Cd with the purchase of a CD wallet

man i miss that spot :(
By ziggafresh Sat May 24, 2008 7:03 am
Thats a dope find! Thanks for sharing...!!

Ive got a question tho, what about if playing sampled music at a paid event?
or being paid to play your music? (which has copyrighted samples)

Would you say youre being paid to test the speakers that they work and youre using the music youve coincidentally got with you? anyone got something better than that??

Does this mean you can play sampled music in public in anyway???

Thanks again
By dmarz45 Mon May 26, 2008 2:16 pm
Zookey2500 wrote:
But this advice will/can relieve a lot of stress for those huslin to get that paper and their heat heard on the streets without worrying about the samplin police knocking on your door... But a good way to, get your stuff heard using samples, without paying for/clearing them up till that point when you'd be more in the business of dealing with selling music and not huslin CD cases with your 'free cd'.



yeah but unless your pretty famous you dont need to clear samples anyway.
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By Coz Mon May 26, 2008 2:24 pm
What if you become famous from the tracks with uncleared samples?? :wink:

I heard that Fatboy Slim got stung for around £100,000 for an uncleared hi hat on one of his albums! How crazy is that??
By dmarz45 Mon May 26, 2008 3:01 pm
Coz wrote:What if you become famous from the tracks with uncleared samples?? :wink:

I heard that Fatboy Slim got stung for around £100,000 for an uncleared hi hat on one of his albums! How crazy is that??



then once you find out your song is gonna be on TV/Radio whatever....... THEN you clear the sample

but if you do real sample based hip hop you probably wont be on commercial radio/tv because "HIP-HOP" (and i STRESS the quotes!) nowadays is all stupid club music. AND on another note F*CK Lil Wayne.
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By talontsiawd Wed May 28, 2008 8:22 am
I can think of examples off the top of my head but i don't think this is still a viable way to sell things. I went over more than a few examples in my business law class of things outside music that used this concept. I could be wrong, or it may not apply the same as what i was taught (i may have been taught wrong). It's still probably "more" legal than a traditional sale, reguardless, if i am right, again, i def. could be wrong.
By 4dahaterz Thu May 29, 2008 7:09 am
This Thread is a joke.... try this if yall want... One of you go and sell enough albums, mess around and get caught up, you will be the example and the name of the new court case that cats in these forums will be referring to.