Changing the Bar-measure on the 2500

Is it possible to do that
(yes i used the search function already)

I try to change the sequence end in step edit from 003.01.00 to 002.04.90 (just an example).
I can change the value but when pressing do it, the value goes back to 003.01.00
I tried it a couple of times, the result was the MPC was booting the start screen and my whole Memory was wiped, and tryin´ to get in step edit mode again made it booting again and again. So i had to turn it off.
Strange stuff!

Thanks in advance for any Help!

well a seq is made up of bars, so just copy bars 1 and 2 after bar 2 and you'll have a 4 bar seq


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Yeah i know,
i actually want to change the ticks of the last bar of my sequence
like make the second bar of my 2 bar seq. a little shorter.
or shorten the bar of a 1 bar sequence a couple of ticks.
Or can this be done via T.C.
Sorry i´m a newbie

Why would anyone want to do this?

From what I see I'd say this isn't possible.

[quote="_Stilo_"]Why would anyone want to do this?



I knew that comment gonna come

The thing is I don´t get the knack yet to sequence perfect drum-sequences
I´m just looking for a way to get my beats right.
I´m new to this MPC thang and got a lot of stupid questions

But I appreciate that you try to help out Stilo

peace

WatchYoNuggets wrote:

_Stilo_ wrote:Why would anyone want to do this?



I knew that comment gonna come

And I knew that answer's gonna come

It has a good reason that this isn't possible obviously. By shortening the sequence by a few ticks you'd **** up the whole rhythm of your track. You wouldn't have a say 4/4 beat anymore, but a 3,96/4 for example. That's not good, unless you're into experimental stuff.

You can make your sequences loop perfectly with just what the machine provides - pitching, stretching, tempo etc. Just takes a little practice.

Sounds good,
I´ll have to do my homework on the machine then.

Thanks again

Well, if you have one seq of 4/4 and another seq of 2/2 then you go in to song mode and convert them to a new seq right?

I'm not sure i comprende.

An interesting experiment would be to create different sequences in different time sigs, put them on after the other in a song and hit the convert button to convert the song to a sequence...it would be interesting to see how the mpc deals with it.

Guys, he doesn't want to cut whole measures off...only a few ticks, like 3 or 4 of the 96 parts per quarter - not a whole quarter. I don't see a way to do this, and I believe that's on purpose.

Well that´s sounds magnificent Mr.Lampdog

But i based that on single hits, the thing is:
I move my second snare back a couple of ticks (with T.C. off) in my 1 bar sequence to make it coming tighter to the first snare.
But that makes the gap at the end of the bar bigger so the timing from the first to the second snare sounds good but the timing of the second snare looping to the first snare again sounds like shit.

That´s why i wanna get rid of them parts per quarter at the end of the bar.
But there´s surely another way to get this problem done, right?
I think i mess too much around in the step edit mode, but i want my beats to come more natural.

I think you shouldn't try to get a tight drum loop with 1 bar. Take at least 2 or 4 bars, or your drums won't have any room to "swing".

Technically, you can get a "right" timing in 1 bar as well of course, it's simple mathematics on which ticks to put them. But that's possibly not the groove you're looking for.

Yeah i know,
I try to make a perfect 1 bar loop, copy it a couple of times and mess around with the other bars to make it more groovy.
But the 1 bar don´t turn out the right way, maybe i should try start with 2 or 4 bars.

But technically it´s the same thing isn´t it?
Or does a 2 or 4 bar loop assure more loseness(groove) in the sequence?
But I think i know what you mean.