Post your views and questions about the Akai MPC2500
By badmann Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:57 pm
how can i take a drum sample and have it play at different octaves without sounding too sped up?its seems like alot of southern hiphop uses 808 like that?

By huora Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:29 pm
patch phrase.

By Mike Feedback Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:02 am
huora wrote:patch phrase.


patch phrase is still going to make the drums sound sped up.
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By Rehi Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:45 am
pitch shift

By personal_rock Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:05 pm
I had a post about pitch shifting a few days ago and this is what I was wanting it for...drums, but using the pitch shift in TRIM's edit mode, not patch phrase.
Problem is I can't seem to get the pitch shifting too sound any good no matter how much i mess with the presets and the adjust...
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By Antonym Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:12 pm
pitch shifting or timestretching drums is like trying to resize porcelain

By personal_rock Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:38 am
i usually just tune them down in the programme, but sometimes you can lose alot of the punch of kicks and snares.....that and it just sounds too stretched out...
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By vakseen Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:43 pm
yeah pitch em up or down. Its a MUST with any drum kit. just gotta make sure they're in tune with the melody u have going

By Mr Skills Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:17 am
Yeah, I'd say the same, just tune em'up or down. But you want to choose drums that are close to the tuning of the sample you're using. If you use any old drums, your track will sound wrong, out of place...and retarded!!
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By Ras Desta Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:40 pm
badmann wrote:how can i take a drum sample and have it play at different octaves without sounding too sped up?its seems like alot of southern hiphop uses 808 like that?
Could it be they're using real drum modules instead of samples?

By Prophacee Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:56 pm
Yeah you have to pitch to the tonic, but you can't over do it. Going full octaves to me is not worth it. You find the best pitch match within the best sounding register. This isn't just true for drums, but for any sampled sound. Most drum samples, even instruments, have an optimal register. I usually find the right pitch within the best register and leave it at that. I've never gone octaves in drums, except for 808s. ONe.
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By episode Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:02 am
badmann wrote:how can i take a drum sample and have it play at different octaves without sounding too sped up?its seems like alot of southern hiphop uses 808 like that?
this is kind of a paradox because to play a sample at a different octave you have to pitch it up/down which will cause it to sound faster or slower.
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By Jessiah Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:12 am
Don't forget you can stretch samples. So this comes in handy with fitting drums too. You just need to stretch it out, and then pitch it right. Experiment. You have lots of tools at hand! nh

By Prophacee Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:55 am
Yo Ep, I don't want to belabor the point I made, but just wanted to clarify. An octave is usually considered the full musical note range up or down. That's going from middle C to the next C on the piano up or down. Sometimes its half the range, but most musicians consider an octave the full range of a musical scale. Its a pretty big range. Pitch shifting to change an octave up is like making a record go almost double speed. When I pitch a drum, I may go up or down a few individual tones or subtones, or "pitches", but usually not a full octave. So in the definition I was giving about octaves, its not really a paradox, its based on the true definition of music theory. Y'all can go back to the original subject. Sorry to digress

By Prophacee Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:56 am
Ep, my bad, you weren't even quoting my post. My bad dude. That's what I get for not staying on task. One Love.