MPC2500 Discontinued

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Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By T7 Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:25 pm
phx_chronic wrote:
Problem solved: http://www.mpcstuff.com/1al4039a501a.html


why would he spend $375 when he's not sure that that is the source of the problem?


Haven't you read his posts? he says he does know what the problem is: the CPU board. :)

Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By phx_chronic Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:38 pm
Sounds like he's trying to get another 2500, swap the cpu boards on the two, and return it for a refund. Either that, or, spend $50-100 on express shipping to AKAI to be repaired.

Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By T7 Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:15 am
phx_chronic wrote:
Sounds like he's trying to get another 2500, swap the cpu boards on the two, and return it for a refund. Either that, or, spend $50-100 on express shipping to AKAI to be repaired.


In that case, proceed directly to any of the big online retailers, they'll let you return anything.
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Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By LivePsy Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:55 am
Has anyone got the Akai test OS? If this thing is discontinued then we should at least be able to spot a dud one on the second hand market with the test OS.
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Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By Triple-X Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:24 pm
T7 wrote:
phx_chronic wrote:
Sounds like he's trying to get another 2500, swap the cpu boards on the two, and return it for a refund. Either that, or, spend $50-100 on express shipping to AKAI to be repaired.


In that case, proceed directly to any of the big online retailers, they'll let you return anything.



like a dog chasing his tail.

all of this has been covered.. why would I spend money to BUY one online then have to PAY to ship it back?
rather than keep trying to find one locally. might as well pay to ship to Akai at that point.

And posting a link to the cpuboard on mpcstuff??? like I havn't seen that? and Im just itching to spend 375 bucks on something that shouldnt be broken in the first place and is STILL under warranty. I mean why bother to post that?

Im really not trying to be an d!ck yo.. but if your not gonna contribute anything positive to the thread,
then I ask.. nicely.. PLEASE just leave it alone. seriously.
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Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By Triple-X Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:26 pm
LivePsy wrote:Has anyone got the Akai test OS? If this thing is discontinued then we should at least be able to spot a dud one on the second hand market with the test OS.



I've begun dealing with someone at VST that has been pretty helpful thus far.
Im waiting on a reply, but when I talk to em again I will inquire about the Test OS.
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Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By Triple-X Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:33 pm
phx_chronic wrote:
Sounds like he's trying to get another 2500, swap the cpu boards on the two, and return it for a refund. Either that, or, spend $50-100 on express shipping to AKAI to be repaired.


Phx
Thats exactly it. and the second one is the last option. I have until FEB 2010 to decide b4 the warranty is up..
granted I want it done NOW.. but im not gonna spend excess money to do it.

Best case scenario.. I find a 2500 locally that I can return and swap my cpuboard out and find Im correct about the issue and solve it.
Worst case, I send it to akai, pay to do it, wait the 2-3 weeks for repair, and buy a 1000 to hold me over while mine gets repaired. then return it afterwards (untainted)

Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By Jamon Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:42 pm
Triple-X what you are considering, swapping a defective part and returning, is immoral theft. All you do is selfishly transfer your problem to someone else. Either pay for the part, or use the warranty. Shipping the MPC won't damage solid state electronics. Akai is a terrible company, but that does not give you justification for behaving immorally.

Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By T7 Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:54 pm
Triple-X wrote:why would I spend money to BUY one online then have to PAY to ship it back?


I guess you've never returned anything to zzounds.com or MF. They cover return shipping and give full refunds on "defective" merchandise, yo. :P

Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By T7 Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:57 pm
Jamon wrote:Triple-X what you are considering, swapping a defective part and returning, is immoral theft. All you do is selfishly transfer your problem to someone else. Either pay for the part, or use the warranty. Shipping the MPC won't damage solid state electronics. Akai is a terrible company, but that does not give you justification for behaving immorally.


I agree, but in this case the defective MPC would likely be returned to Akai by the dealer and refurbed so he'd essentially be doing the warranty repair himself. Besides, have you seen his myspace? He's clearly a gangsta. :lol:

Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By Jamon Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:09 pm
Even so the problem would still be unfairly transferred.

Suppose he returned it, and the store put it out for sale, someone buys it, and has to return it when they discover the flaw. That right there caused headaches for multiple people in a chain of events, costing time, travel expense, etc.

But let's pretend he tells them exactly what's wrong when returning, and the store decides to ship it back to the manufacturer. That costs money, whch he was supposed to pay, but he made the store pay instead.

Akai receives it, and have to spend time to do diagnostics on what should be a new perfect machine, find the problem, disssemble, replace part, reassemble, repackage, and it is now marked as refurbished, losing value.

He stole. He has the used machine, and instead of simply fixing it, owning up to his own situation, he pushes his problems out onto multiple people. He causes a new machine to become used. That loss of value + cost fixing it is stolen.

It is a dishonorable act any way you imagine the order of events.

Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By T7 Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:12 pm
Jamon wrote:Even so the problem would still be unfairly transferred.

Suppose he returned it, and the store put it out for sale, someone buys it, and has to return it when they discover the flaw. That right there caused headaches for multiple people in a chain of events, costing time, travel expense, etc.

But let's pretend he tells them exactly what's wrong when returning, and the store decides to ship it back to the manufacturer. That costs money, whch he was supposed to pay, but he made the store pay instead.

Akai receives it, and have to spend time to do diagnostics on what should be a new perfect machine, find the problem, disssemble, replace part, reassemble, repackage, and it is now marked as refurbished, losing value.

He stole. He has the used machine, and instead of simply fixing it, owning up to his own situation, he pushes his problems out onto multiple people. He causes a new machine to become used. That loss of value + cost fixing it is stolen.

It is a dishonorable act any way you imagine the order of events.


I admire you sense of honor. Props. I do think Akai would issue a call tag to the dealer and pay for return shipping on the defective MPC, and if Akai ends up putting time and money into it it seems only fair.
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Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By armanii Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:32 am
Im going to return mine i bought a month ago for 1600, and 2 days later buy it for 1200
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Re: MPC2500 Discontinued

By Triple-X Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:23 am
T7 wrote:
Jamon wrote:Triple-X what you are considering, swapping a defective part and returning, is immoral theft. All you do is selfishly transfer your problem to someone else. Either pay for the part, or use the warranty. Shipping the MPC won't damage solid state electronics. Akai is a terrible company, but that does not give you justification for behaving immorally.


I agree, but in this case the defective MPC would likely be returned to Akai by the dealer and refurbed so he'd essentially be doing the warranty repair himself. Besides, have you seen his myspace? He's clearly a gangsta. :lol:


my myspace?
lol wtf is that supposed to mean?

and T7.. THIS TIME.. u nailed it..

jamon.. what IM doing is immoral???

but Akai selling MPCs for top dollar with bottom dollar parts is not???
i have a DEFECTIVE PART in my 5 month old mpc. so fuk the immoral sh!t. (correction TWO def parts. i forgot the screen has a line out as well)
Immoral is having to come further out of pocket to PAY to ship it to them to fix some sh!t that shouldn't be broken in the first place. its a KNOWN ISSUE. akai KNOWS about and does NOTHING. oh wait I take that back..
they probably couldnt find a CHEAP work around solution to building DEFECTIVE MPCs so they just said Fuk it and discontinued it.. So you can take all that moral high ground sh!t to church.

besides, why u think i was looking for a FLOOR MODEL, with ISSUES?!?!? it gonna get RTV'd to AKAI anyway.
Not put in a box for some innocent person to by. LIKE I DID. and you said I need to "OWN up to it" as if I BROKE IT.
I bought it like that. AKAI needs to OWN UP TO IT. and this is how I make them do that, MY WAY.

and again T7 hit the nail on the head.. when i first called Akai with this issue, the first thing I asked is if I could have the parts sent to me under warranty. I can do the repairs myself. I knew they would say no, but it was worth asking. You never know who u might get on the phone. Either way.. even if pissing away 50 to 100 bucks on shipping was something i didnt care about, Akai's repair turn around is fukin 2 weeks (PLUS shipping). 2 weeks to do something that takes me 20 minutes if i had the part.

so at the end of the day, two wrongs dont make a right.. but If Akai can sell MPCS with defective cpu boards in em, then I can buy one of them(hopefully a non defective one) and stuff my defective cpuboard in it, and send it right back to akai like..
"yo...you forgot this"

EDIT. Im a laid back, honest, hard working guy that pays my taxes and treats others how I wanna be treated.
but this pissed me off. shoplifting is immoral, rape and murder is immoral.. this is a fair move in a game being dictated by the companies that have control over what they market and sell to us, not playing fair.
It would be one thing if Akai didn't completely STOP paying authorized dealers in the US to do warranty repairs, so i could take it some place LOCAL like i had done in the past with my 2000 classic way back in 1998.
But to sell mpcs with low quality and defective parts, and also no longer allow authorized repair centers to do warranty work? You tell me whats more immoral?
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