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The music that comes out of the machine matters to the listener. The ease of getting something done matters to the owner of the machine.

Would you rather time stretch on your MPC1000, or would you prefer to be forced into doing it outside the computer with a software application?

Functionality makes a difference. I'll take an MPC4000 any day over an MPC60. Even with its OS problems the MPC4000 is much easier to use and has many more features than these other models.

Eemo1:
4000,3000,2500,1000,60 it doesn't matter which machine. what matters is what comes out of the machine.

1000 may be at the bottom of the food chain, but if the beats are dope, does it really matter? gear don't make beats, people do.

Spoken like a true MPC 1K warrior

Hurricane Producer wrote:
Functionality makes a difference. I'll take an MPC4000 any day over an MPC60. Even with its OS problems the MPC4000 is much easier to use and has many more features than these other models.

I keep asking this question but never receive a straight answer. Can you give me a reproduceable bug with the latest MPC 4000 OS?

Some of them are reproducible and others are not. Don't ask me which ones fit in either category. I have never kept a list of them. But here's another one for you. A couple years back some 4000 owners reported their pads were double triggering. I kept reading different reasons for this problem. Some said it was an OS problem, others said it was the pads themselves. One cat told me I hadn't used my 4000 enough. He claimed it was the pad wear causing the problem. Then he backed off when he found out how long I owned it. To this day I still have no problem with double triggering. Could the problem be with both the way he used the 4000 pads as well as it being an OS bug? I don't know. The best thing for you to do is research the list of bugs and try them for yourself. I never kept track of them. When I encounter a bug with 4000 I always get around it by avoiding the 4000 and using either a software sequencer or another MPC.

for the double trigger thingie

I thought my 1k was doing this, then I tried a 2kxl that did the same thing

my opinion is it has something to do with how ytou hit the pads...

Some of them are reproducible and others are not. Don't ask me which ones fit in either category. I have never kept a list of them. But here's another one for you. A couple years back some 4000 owners reported their pads were double triggering. I kept reading different reasons for this problem. Some said it was an OS problem, others said it was the pads themselves. One cat told me I hadn't used my 4000 enough. He claimed it was the pad wear causing the problem. Then he backed off when he found out how long I owned it. To this day I still have no problem with double triggering. Could the problem be with both the way he used the 4000 pads as well as it being an OS bug? I don't know. The best thing for you to do is research the list of bugs and try them for yourself. I never kept track of them. When I encounter a bug with 4000 I always get around it by avoiding the 4000 and using either a software sequencer or another MPC.

Double triggering is not a bug. ANd every time I throw out questions about the MPC 4000s OS, I get vaque answers. If you find a 'bug' in the OS of any product, you should write in down and forward to the respective companies. That is how things ger fixed.

Anyway...There is no need for me to do research on the reported 'bugs'. Akai has put out plenty of OS updates for the MPC 4000. As far as software sequencers...they have had just as many 'bugs'.

The MPC 4000 is a solid machine.

Why do you keep asking about the bugs? And you say it's solid, yet you sold yours???!!! You don't even own it!

Research!! Read what happens when you load over 256 MB. Read how slow the machine becomes. Read, research, read, research!

And BUY it!!!

Hurricane Producer wrote:
Why do you keep asking about the bugs? And you say it's solid, yet you sold yours???!!! You don't even own it!

Research!! Read what happens when you load over 256 MB. Read how slow the machine becomes. Read, research, read, research!

And BUY it!!!

I ask because you stated that it has bugs. I got rid of my MPC (which was working perfectly fine for me) because it didn't feel like the MPC of yesterday. So I kept using the MPC 3000 and 2000XL up until a few weeks ago. Now the 2500 is in effect mode (Al B. Sure )

Research?? That is what I am doing by asking you a question about your personal experiences with the MPC 4000. But you didn't give me anything solid. I want to know your experience with loading more than 256MBs of samples. I can get all my research from you.

I will never get another MPC 4000. But will jump on the next highend MPC.

Are you saying that you prefer the 2500 over the 4k?

taxman806 wrote:
Are you saying that you prefer the 2500 over the 4k?

Yes..oh yes. I prefer the MPC 2500 (even the MPC 3000) over the MPC 4000. My MPCs are used mainly for sequencing, sampling drums and phrase loops. Any MPC 2500 does this as well/better than the MPC 4000. The MPC 4000 does have the full blown sampler, better effects, more filters, etc. But I do not need these on a daily basis. In fact, when I owned my MPC 4000, I used it exactly the same way I did with the MPC 3000. Those added features were a waste for me. I sold it to someone that would appreciate it more. The MV 8000 received the same treatment.

roxstar wrote:I can't understand why people are selling their MPC's for another one, and they can berely use the MPC they already got! If you just want the 2500/4000 just to own it, then I can understand, but to any real producer that just wants to make music, I don't think the jump is neccessary. Don't get me wrong, I think the machines are amazing, but I want to make some money off my tracks before I spend another red cent on another piece of equipment. I really would like to hear some of the additional features the 2500/4000 have. I haven't heard a beat from the 4000/2500/3000 (on this board) that couldn't be done on a casio keyboard, but owners of these machines like to brag and boast about how their MPC is better, and the 2000's are cheap and built like toys. Folks talk about how akai sucks from not supporting this, and not fixing that, but when it is fixed, are the owners taking advantage of the technology? The filters?, the effects?, faster processor? Resampling? Q-link?? When I got my SP-202 you could hear the difference in my beats. I was able to do thigs that I couldn't do with my MPC by itself. The 202 cost me $45.00. So when I see folks spending two to three G's on a better mpc, I expect (at least) the same reults. Why buy the latest and greatest and not improve?
I guess, my question is, if you sell your mpc for another one, what is the reason? Because if the beats don't improve in some kind of way, there really isn't a reason.. is there? Because if I had the 2500/4000, I guarentee you would hear EVERY additional function that these machines have.

"The 2500 is not going to improve peoples tracks anymore than the MPC 4000. You will get what you put into it."

PALABRA!!!

Its been 6 years since the XL dropped and 11 years since the MPC 3000 dropped. An upgrade is way overdue. Why not upgrade if the new MPC packs the extras you have been waiting for.

C'mon and take the plunge with us

jahrome wrote:

Eemo1:
4000,3000,2500,1000,60 it doesn't matter which machine. what matters is what comes out of the machine.

1000 may be at the bottom of the food chain, but if the beats are dope, does it really matter? gear don't make beats, people do.

Spoken like a true MPC 1K warrior

1k-sp12 warrior. switching to the 2500 as soon as it's available.

Would you rather time stretch on your MPC1000, or would you prefer to be forced into doing it outside the computer with a software application?

i don't time strech. i think it doesn't sound good. i rather work around so i don't have to time strech.

Eemo1 wrote:1k-sp12 warrior. switching to the 2500 as soon as it's available.

Not dropping the SP ar you?

not in a million years.

Eemo1 wrote:not in a million years.

On a different note. Since you appreciate that gritty SP sound and got a MPC1K, do you know about THIS TRICK to get crunchy sounds on the MPC1K?
If not, try it yourself and let me know what you think. I own a MPC1K and a SP1200 and this weird glitch gives a MUCH better sound than the bitcrusher in the 1K.
I am trying to find out if this glitch/bug also appears on the 2500 (don't have one myself), if not i think i'll stick with my MPC1K for now.