Post your views and questions about the Akai MPC2500
By filthy mack Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:43 pm
i bought a mpc 2500 brand new out the box from guitar center in atlanta ga. and the f3 and f4 softkeys didn't work so i took it back and got another one. it worked fine so i expanded the memory to 128mb, added a hitachi 80 gig hard drive to it and the cd-m25 cdrw dvd rom drive, this is every option meaning it's fully blown. i also bought a 128mb compact flash card to match the memory. sounds awesome doesn't it!!!but "houston we have a problem!" the cd rom is not for data storage or cd burning, it will not do either of the two at this time (o.s. 1.0). it only reads from the cdrw dvd rom! be clear, it will not save data to the cdrw or record cds of your beats for you to play in your stereo. this really broke my f#@&!n' heart because that is why i bought the thing in the first place. i am on the road alot and i wanted a machine i could burn cds of the beats i was working on. i already had a mpc 2000xl with a 250mb zip and a external cdrom drive that i could read data from, so i sort of spun my tires on the take off so to speak. maybe in future o.s. versions they will have the know how to burn cds and save data to the cdrw dvd rom drive, i can only pray because i am out of about $2800 and i don't know if it all worth it because with the addition of the cd-m25 "cdrw" dvdrom drive it slows the performance of the 2500 considerably. like after you try to save something to the hard drive or flash rom the cd comes up in the "save to:" field. something about that makes the system start to hang up and delayed responses are asured, like hitting a mode button or main window button and it taking like three or four seconds or more for the function to take place. very very heart breaking to a avid mpc user. i still love the fact that a mpc 2500 with the 128mb expansion board has enough memory to hold four of my 32mb four drum programs that i made on my mpc 2000xl. that means i have four programs loaded in the mpc2000xl at once, one for drum 1, one for drum 2, one for drum 3, one for drum 4. each program containing 64 sounds. (4 x64=256). so the mpc 2500 can hold 24 different programs but only up to 128mb (4 of my 32mb mpc 2000xl 4 program 4 drum set up that i made). another quam i have with the mpc 2500 is the ability to tell what program goes to what track if you are loading a mpc 2000/2000xl midi 01 seq file. it will load the sequence but it does not know what program goes with what track, you have to figure that outr for yourself and it is a **** and might make you throw up!( oh all those save all programs and save all songs and seqs files do not read from the 2000/2000xl to the mpc 2500 i had to resave all my pragrams + sounds, and seqs, and songs one by one to a unpartitioned zip disk so i could load them in to a computer and fly them to a compact flash drive. it was mid-evil torture for modern-day times.i never got finished because it is so time consuming). if they make a o.s. update solving these few problems i would say it is worth it but for now the cd-m25 is not what you want in your 2500. i want them to fix the problems with the cdrw dvd rom right god damn now!!! i want to burn cds with this cdrw because that is what a cdrw does right, or at least save data to the cdrw which it does neither. i never posted anything in my life but i had to say something about this, shiiiiit i had to sell "reg" for "mid" to get this f#!@!n' thing and it ain't worth the hassle i'm going through now with everybody calling me back and that's real talk!
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By jahrome Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:48 pm
Wow...I thought I wrote long posts :lol:


Sorry you had to find out after you spent your money...but with the current OS, it doesn't burn. You may want to take your time and read through these threads because there are other issues as well that will or at least..suppose to be ironed out soon. I was seriously thinking about adding a thread to post my complaints....I have been patiently waiting for an OS update for 4 months and don't know how long I can wait before I blow a fuse..........
By _Stilo_ Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:57 pm
filthy mack wrote: the cd rom is not for data storage or cd burning, it will not do either of the two at this time (o.s. 1.0). it only reads from the cdrw dvd rom! be clear, it will not save data to the cdrw or record cds of your beats for you to play in your stereo. this really broke my f#@&!n' heart because that is why i bought the thing in the first place.

Who the hell told you all that the CD drive burns CDs?? Nobody ever claimed that, Akai did not and noone else, neither is it mentioned anywhere in the manual. It is advertised as a "CD/DVD ROM", which doesn't imply any burning capabilities either.

So what? Sorry, but you should have informed yourself before purchase, especially if that issue was the main reason for you to buy this box.



Stilo.
By filthy mack Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:08 pm
the web site at sonicstate.com states " Optional user installable CD-RW drive to load CD-ROM libraries, sample Audio CDs, and backup personal data "
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By jahrome Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:27 pm
Stilo
Who the hell told you all that the CD drive burns CDs?? Nobody ever claimed that, Akai did not and noone else, neither is it mentioned anywhere in the manual. It is advertised as a "CD/DVD ROM", which doesn't imply any burning capabilities either.

So what? Sorry, but you should have informed yourself before purchase, especially if that issue was the main reason for you to buy this box.



Stilo.

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Yes, it was advertised to burn initially..but later it was added that the current OS supports CD Roms and DVD Roms only. The CD-M25 is an actual burner

By debonaire Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:06 am
STILTO get yer facts straight b4 ya put ya foot in ya mouffffff......
CDR does not mean cd-rom ...it stands for cd recorder/recordable!
http://www.akaipro.com/productsaccessories.html
show some compassion for the fellow mate.


& FILTHY MACK preach on brotha i feel yer pain...akai is watching.
"it was mid-evil torture for modern-day times"

classic :D

soon come da redeeming OS

D.

By _Stilo_ Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:58 am
Cool down mate. You're right, the Akai site talks about a CD-RW drive actually. I might have overlooked it cause i don't care about a CD drive in a drumcomputer at all. Then again, if i wanted to buy one at, say, VST, they state it's only capable of reading CDs and DVDs. Okay, i'm unsure at look at the manual before i buy, and it says nothing about a CD drive, let alone about burning CDs.

Buying that box then for it's CD drive, guessing it could be capable of burning is...ummm :?

I didn't intend to insult anybody. But why is there constantly people complaining the accessory CD drive can't burn CDs, while they should know that before buying it? Is Akai's marketing that good?



Peace,
Stilo.
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By jahrome Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:36 pm
When the 2500 was first released, Akai had it posted on their Japanese website that the MPC 2500 will support CD burning for data back-up...thus, the CD-M25 drive is an actual CDRW/DVD-Rom combo drive. Akai did the same thing with the MPC 4000. Initially, it didn't have this function (although it was advertised) and later this function was added with an OS update.

I would never use the burning functions for data backup...but if it did burn audio CDs...I can see it being useful.

By sparq Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:08 pm
also i do not believe it will ever burn your songs to play in your stereo unless the your stereo can play wav files. or unless when akai adds the burning support to the 2.5k, they will add a feature to convert the file type to .cda

i don't know but can the 4k burn .cda files to be played in a stereo right out of the 4k?

By filthy mack Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:08 pm
you are kind of ........... mmmm:? . you're the one with his foot in his mouth! i'm just being real, you tried to say that "no one" (this is how it's spelled) claimed that it will save data or record cds to the cd-m25 like you are the expert on all mpc 2500 ads in the world when clearly, this claim has been made on a number of sites. akais ads says its a cdrw/dvd rom, cdrw means cd recordable/ rewritable this is why we thought it would burn cds. and like i said before, sonicstate.com says it is for backing up personal meaning you can save to it. they are retailers of akai products so they probably got the same impression we did "cdrw" means cd recordable/rewritable. oh! by the way i have a i.q. that is 127 so miss me with that mmmm:? sh!t!
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By jahrome Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:48 pm
sparq wrote:
also i do not believe it will ever burn your songs to play in your stereo unless the your stereo can play wav files. or unless when akai adds the burning support to the 2.5k, they will add a feature to convert the file type to .cda

i don't know but can the 4k burn .cda files to be played in a stereo right out of the 4k?


Unless you have a pre-historic CD drive in your car...it will play .wav files, MP3s, cda, etc.
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By Fist Full of Dollaz Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:02 pm
jahrome wrote:
sparq wrote:
also i do not believe it will ever burn your songs to play in your stereo unless the your stereo can play wav files. or unless when akai adds the burning support to the 2.5k, they will add a feature to convert the file type to .cda

i don't know but can the 4k burn .cda files to be played in a stereo right out of the 4k?


Unless you have a pre-historic CD drive in your car...it will play .wav files, MP3s, cda, etc.


pre historic is a bit of an overstatement isnt it mr. I have the best newest and most expensive everything

when cars sold 2 years ago cd players dont play mp3s at least not all of them do
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By jahrome Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:14 pm
pre-historic or very cheap :wink:

If your CD player didn't play MP3s..I am sorry..but it should play .wav files...in fact, I have CD players that I purchased 5 years ago that plays wav files.

I have to add that if your car system didn't play MP3s 2 years ago..you didn't have the most expensive..or best anything :lol:

By mobetta518 Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:30 pm
IF you don't want the CD drive, I'll buy it from you, I'm in ATL