patch phrases

what is a patch phrase?

it is a sample that will play at the tempo of the sequence that is playing.

if you record a loop and convert to PP it will play at whatever tempo the sequence is playing at

so say i have a sample looping within a sequence and i take parts of that sample and cut it up i could take a particular voice and program it to a pad and play it at the same tempo? is this like time stretching? im workin with the 2500 can u help me how do i convert i need step by step bro good lookin out if u could

page 73 in the manual. (page 83 in the PDF version)

Ha ha, but unfortuently Mr 1000 the manual doesn't really go into it in that greater depth.

I find that the manual is fine once you know your back ground theory. But if you are not familier with the AKAI MPC Series then you're pretty stuffed.

I've re-read the manual 3 times and have to keep looking bits up and I've only just grasped the PP thing from your last post. So thanks for sorting that out for me.

But its like the whole process of;
make a sequence you like
copy the sequence to a new one
make alterations to the new one
stick em (convert) together in song mode
and then start again.
I mean unless you've been shown that you wouldn't know about it - it never mentions to do it in the manual. Now prove me wrong no doubt!

What would be really helpful is a Beats Making with the AKAI MPC 2500 book.

Basically a patched phrase is a sample that is chopped at user selectable points or at automatically calculated beat based points. it's then assigned to one pad. also saved with the sample is the rhythm pattern of the points at which it was chopped at. so basically this allows the mpc to keep playing the sample in tempo if you adjust the mpc's tempo. it does this by playing the chopped pieces of sample in time according to the rhythm pattern that was saved as part of the patched phrase.

Patched phrases differ from chopping in that they are assigned to one pad whereas chopping lays out the pieces across several pads.

The patched phrase is very similar to what Propellerhead's Recycle does, only it's within the mpc. which is nice.

hope this helps.

dablunt wrote:Ha ha, but unfortuently Mr 1000 the manual doesn't really go into it in that greater depth.

you're right, the manual does not get into too much detail. but what was his question?

"what is patch phrase?" and my response was answering his question. the manual at least explains what it is. he didn't ask how to use patch phrase.

easy example, say you got a sample which is a 1 bar loop.. kick/snare/kick/snare... called sample01

you chop that into 4 sections 1 for each kick/snare
then you convert to PP, this makes a new sample called sample01PP

next you assign that PP sample to a pad

now if you load up a sequence and hit that pad on the 1, the kicks and snares will play on the 1,2,3, and 4 regardless of the tempo of the sequence.

this works well with, say, a vocal loop or guitar loop.

This is amazing!! I know that the splash page @ akaipro.com says this is a main feature.

But in all the posts that people have put up about the MPC2500 not timestretching properly you'd of thought that someone would have mentioned this?!

Great stuff everyone. I'm off to re-think my process again! Something for the weekend.

this isn't strictly timestretching, you have to try it to see how good it is really. i guess if you chopped a sample into 64 bits, then turned each one of those pieces into a patched phrase with 64 slices, you could get close to timestretching, but it's still not the same thing. fun though!