Question about tuning and pitch!

Yo, on the mpc 2000xl they hade this really ill feature on the parameter screen where it would show you the bpm and the bars so lets say the the samples bpm was 100 bpm at 4 bars if you turn the bars to 2 it would cut the bpm in half to 50 if you went to adjust the tune you could litterially see the bpms change as you tuned the sample so you always knew what your bpm was after you tuned the sample. Well on the 2500 if you tune the sample the detect tempo doesn't see it. It only sees the tempo of the original sample. I mean I shouldn't have to tap tempo for a pitched or tuned sample everytime for a bpm thats slow especially when your dealing with 40+ samples in one song. So my question is if I have 10 samples and they are different speeds and I don't want to time strecth I just want to tune up till they match exactly How would I do this. It's very simple on the xl so I know this machince can do it. Thank you.
3rd

Help.

The function you are looking for is called chopshop. It dices the sample loop in to parts and calls it a PatchedPhrase like recycle does.
Once it is converted in to a "Patched Phrase", now you can assign the new PP to a pad and get the sequencer to loop that.

Speed it up / slow it down, now should change the speed of PP (loop) without affecting pitch.

This has been covered on these forums b4, which is y no one replied. You may want to use the search next time dudet.

And not double post either.

to be fair, chop shop is NOT what he is talking about. what he is talking about is the tuning/pitching aspect of changing a loop. yea you can use something like chop shop, but maybe he wants the pitch to change too.

i dont have a 2500 though so i cant answer this question but i do know that chop shop is probably not the same behavior as on the 2kxl cause that machine doesnt even have 'chop shop'. the 2kxl changes it like a turntable, which might be the effect he's after.

bingo noggin, bout time someone knew what the **** I'm talking bout and I did search homie matter of fact for about 30mins. You see I DO WANT TO CHANGE THE PITCH. So once again my question is if if detect tempo doesn't work once you tune a sample is there an easier way to find out bpm then having to tap tempo those shits every time.
Thanks.

I assign the sample to a pad and place it as the very first note in the sequencer, then just change the tempo to suit until the phrase loops perfectly. When it does, you know you've got the exact tempo.

If you use tap tempo to get the rough speed of the sample first then it's much quicker.

Yeah. I dont think he wants to do all that, is his point.

Honestly, I didnt even know that that function was available on the xl. Would be interested to see if something comparable is available on the 2500. Could be pretty useful.




ronJ

3rdegree wrote:bingo noggin, bout time someone knew what the **** I'm talking bout and I did search homie matter of fact for about 30mins. You see I DO WANT TO CHANGE THE PITCH. So once again my question is if if detect tempo doesn't work once you tune a sample is there an easier way to find out bpm then having to tap tempo those **** every time.
Thanks.

I understand what your saying 3rd. The answer is no. The 2500 do not work like that as I see it at this point in time. You will have to find the new tempo yourself. I dont like using the detect tempo at this time I usually find it myself because I havnt had success with the detect tempo. I wish it did work the way you described as I never had a xl but that is a dope feature that I can tell was useful. Mabe in another update if you suggest it.