Post your views and questions about the Akai MPC2500
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By HARRY HUSTLE Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:36 pm
ok well if you checked my last thread i had a problem with the "poly/mono" setting....

well thanks to all that helped it got me situated and i ended up making a real hot beat....well atleast hot compared to what i was making...

any how...i go to save it...clicked "all seqs and songs" saved that...then i went and saved each sequence individually aswell...

NOW MY PROBLEM....today i wanted to mess with it so i opened the seqs and what not, but there is no sounds assigned....i dont know maybe i saved them wrong? what is the best way to save once your done??

and am crossing my fingers here...but seeings that i still have the pgms and sequences......i think it just doesnt see the sounds because they are in another directory in the cf card...is there any way i can find out what the name of each sound is called so that i can find them copy them and add them to the directory where the pgms and seqs are...

Or am i just screwed all together with this beat?? sorry if they are very amateur questions but i only owned the mpc a few weeks and am still learning every day.....but if someone can help me out it would be great....then i can learn from my mistake and hopefully this wont happen again....

Thanks in advance....

By huora Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:39 pm
maybe you should when saving, save entire memory :) I also made some mistakes with my beats about 4 days ago when I got the mpc..this solved my problem :)
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By Spirez Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:40 pm
Did you save the programs?

If so, go into program mode (mode + pad7) and it should have the name of your samples used, but there will be a question mark next to the name. This means the MPC cant find the sample or it hasn't been loaded.

If you didn't save the programs, i'm afraid you're probably screwed
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By HARRY HUSTLE Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:50 pm
hey guys thanks for such quick responces....

well see thats my problem i dont think i kno how to properly save....this is why i say that, it asked if i wanted to save all samples and i dont remember if i left it yes or no....BUT...

im using the demo cf card right now because for some reason my bigger cf card wont let me save on it...(who knows) lol...

any way...i figured i woud play it safe and save everything, but what it DID was save everything that is factory defaults....all the factory akai sounds and pgms and everything went into the directory...BUT none of MY SOUNDS went in the directory...

and spirez thanks man, i DID save the pgms aswell as "all songs and seqs" and the seqs individually....and i figured it saved all my sounds aswell but it didnt....so i have everything BUT the sounds...although they are still on my cf card just in different directores....because i figured it would be easier on me to make a few different folders, like kicks,hi hats,snares etc.

i hope i can just find the names then loacate them then reload them and it will play....i just dont know which way to save to prevent it from doing the same thing again...

i LOVE this thing but i tell u its a tricky sumavabich....
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By Spirez Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:09 pm
Like huora says, best thing to do is to create a new folder on your CF card and 'save entire memory' every time. If you do this though, my advice is to create the folder BEFORE you start the beat as some people, myself included, have had problems with the MPC freezing up when creating a new folder.

If it does it before you've started a beat then it's not a problem, but if you've been working on something for a while it's really annoying!

So yeah, either create the folder within the MPC first or create it via your computer, either with a card reader or via USB.

Like i say though, if you saved the programs but not the samples, the name of the sample should still be in your program but it will have a question mark next to it. Is this the case for you?

By _Stilo_ Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:51 pm
HARRY HUSTLE wrote:im using the demo cf card right now because for some reason my bigger cf card wont let me save on it...(who knows) lol...

I think you have to format it first. Try the "Util" in Save/Load Mode.


Stilo.
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By HARRY HUSTLE Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:43 pm
stilo...im pretty sure i did format it, but then again maybe i did my HD and forgot to do the cf card...it would read fine but then as soon as i would try and "save" anything it would freeze the mpc...but with the demo cf card i never had any problems with freezing at any time...(knocks on wood)...

spirez-
well i some what do this...(from the pc) every time i make a new beat i make a folder say "3RD BEAT" then i throw just the vinyl samples i plan on using in that folder that i have pre-chopped in acid...although im starting to like the chop/convert/new program now that im getting the hang of that i use that now aswell...ok so new folder, samples in there...and im off to the mpc with the cf card....fire up the mpc, load up the samples from "3RD BEAT" folder...BUT...then i load sounds from other folders...kicks,hats,snares so forth...

so once the beat is how i like....and i go to save program WITH samples if i save entire memory...then it will save all the extra sounds/pgms that come factory with the mpc....how can i make it so that it saves JUST the sounds that are involved with the beat into the 3RD beat folder...

that way once i save all the songs,seqs,pgms in 3RD BEAT i can have EVERYTHING involved with that beat in that folder and not scattered all over....

in any event....i did see what you said the sample name was showing with a ? mark so i figured i would think like a computer....lol...

i went and emptied all my folders haha and put them ALL into 1 folder pgms,seqs,sounds...everything into 1 folder...crossed my fingers, loaded the mpc back up and it was set it now had recognized all the sounds because they were all in the same directory...

now if i can just figure out how to do that from the get go...i should be set to go....

This is another side question, how can i transfer finished songs or track by track from the mpc to the computer and record them real time.....into acid...i know i can run it through my delta soundcard but i tried and wasnt picking up and sound is there a certain setting or output that needs to be used on the mpc...??

well sorry bout the damn book...but i type fast and once i get going....sometimes theres no telling where it ends lmao...but thanks to all that are willing to help...or having already helped...

By _Stilo_ Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:07 am
HARRY HUSTLE wrote:stilo...im pretty sure i did format it, but then again maybe i did my HD and forgot to do the cf card...it would read fine but then as soon as i would try and "save" anything it would freeze the mpc...but with the demo cf card i never had any problems with freezing at any time...(knocks on wood)...

Ok, then maybe it's another problem. Make sure to try formatting it on the MPC and see if that works. If not, something's weird.

HARRY HUSTLE wrote:so once the beat is how i like....and i go to save program WITH samples if i save entire memory...then it will save all the extra sounds/pgms that come factory with the mpc....how can i make it so that it saves JUST the sounds that are involved with the beat into the 3RD beat folder...

This sounds as if you are autoloading the demo sounds every time you start your MPC. To prevent that, see p. 110 in the manual on how to switch it off, and make sure to leave the demo CF card out of the slot until the MPC has finished booting. That way your memory will be empty after boot-up.


Stilo.
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By HARRY HUSTLE Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:56 pm
stilo...yea something is strange with my new cf card...it's 1 gb and its kingston which everyone in some thread said was the way to go...and it works fine like i can transfer data to and from it and all that fine BUT the second i try to "save" anything on it from the mpc its freeeezes the mpc...EVERYTIME! i dont know if it's the mpc or the cf card...but i guess the cd card because like i said befor it does not do that with my akai demo cf card....so im wondering could i have a faulty cf card...?? maybe i should call newegg if so...


and thanks man, i will have to look into the other because YES it does load all the factory sounds when i boot up the mpc...it came like that default so i figured that was the best way to keep it.....but yea like i said if i go and hit "save entire memory" it saves ALL akai's factory sounds and pgms aswell....so hopefully i can change that so when i save...i can save JUST the things that were invloved with the beat that i made and ONLY those sounds.....

when you are done making a beat what is the best way to save? just save the entire memory? or should i save just the pgms and individual seq's? or save "all seqs and songs" or should i just do all of the above...im not sure and i end up saving everything hoping not to lose anything....but maybe thats overkill and there is a more efficient way to save....any how thanks for the info man much appreciated!!!
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By Spirez Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:59 pm
I'd say just save entire memory into a new folder. I've never had the need to save individually when i can just click that one fast friendly option!

Sometimes though, if i''m feeling paranoid, i'll save the entire memory to the root of the CF card then create the folder with the MPC linked up via USB. I also save it to the internal hard drive, you should definitely grab one of these.

By cancer scabies Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:05 pm
alright im a newbie to this machine(2 days and 1 evening) but ill help.....

TURN OFF THE AUTOLOAD OF FACTORY PRESETS!!!
it only comes that way so people can demo the shit in the shop...

if yuo having problems with your 1gb memory card just use the 32 meg card (delete the demos and shit .wot yuo need em for anyway??)

then create a folder on the the root of the memory card to save your current project .
then when yuo want to save what you've done select save entire memory and save it in the folder yuo created.....
when yuo want to load it up again just load the folder and set the option that says replace current files in memory to yes ...
should load up with all your programs and samples intact...
this is the way i've got it to work anyway cos a couple of times before i did that i lost samples and one time my samples weren't assigned to pads..
now i do this everything loads up sweet everytime
hope this helps

By _Stilo_ Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:29 pm
cancer scabies wrote:if yuo having problems with your 1gb memory card just use the 32 meg card (delete the demos and **** .wot yuo need em for anyway??)

Well that's pretty dissatisfying having a 1 Gig card and still having to use a 32MB one, isn't it? :wink:

And that 32MB won't last very long either, so I would definitely try to make it work. Harry, maybe you can borrow a card from someone to try if that works ok? And again: Did you try to re-format the card in the MPC?
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By HARRY HUSTLE Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:41 pm
WOW! now this is strange and albe damn if i have any explanation but regardless im not complaining i am now more then happy...

and YES using a 32mb card when you have a 1gb card in the cut is VERY VERY ummm WACK! i was using the 32 and would load up enough stuff for 1 beat then clear it all out and start on another...lol..how garbage is that....

any how i busted it out and went and re-formatted it...crossed my fingers, went to save and it froze...so im like wtf????

well as i said i also have a 100Gb HD installed...so out of curiosity i said f'it i went and reformatted the HD THEN reformatted the CF and BOOOM!!

now everything works lovly and saves WITHOUT freeze!!! YAAY!

now why would one effect the other?? i dunno, its crazy im just glad its fixed...

oh and in the process befor all that i turned that autoload garbage off aswell.....which is NIIIICE!!! now starting right on seq 1 unused is nice to see lol....and all my drives and cards are workin perfect (knocks on wood).....

so im pretty much all set appreciate all the tips and help to get me through the humps.....but i have 2 last small questions maybe one could help with.....i am going to start saving each beat in its own folder and just use the "save entire mem" but it asks "replace same files" yes or no??? should i hit yes or no...im not sure what it means by "same files" i want to set it so it just saves everything involved with the beat made i dont need all those factory sounds....so i would assume just hit yes and save???

2nd is when you hook up your mpc to your comp and want to say record one of your beats track by track on acid or whatever....how do i go about that....can i use strictly usb or is that only for transfers??? i want to like be able to hook it up and play a seq while acid records it...and keep doing that untill all seq's are recorded in acid....then mix it down with vocals and all that....but this is like my last thing im having a small problem with...and im soooooo manual'd out....any tips or ways of pulling this off??? or the easiest way of doing it???....Thanks again fellaz....
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By Spirez Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:53 pm
The 1st one i can help with. Just set replace same files to yes. Basically it just overwrites any files in the memory with the latest version.

So if you have 'sequence 1' in memory, save it then come back and add more to it at a later date, the 'replace same files' option will replace the old sequence with the new one.

With the older OS this was defaulted as no, so any changes made would not be overwritten and you would lose your work if you forgot to change it to yes.

Not too sure about Acid as i use Cubase myself but basically you have to have a midi out of the MPC connected to the midi in on your soundcard/interface, then a midi out from the interface to the midi in of the MPC. USB is for transfers only

In the MPC press mode and pad 9 then F2 to access the midi sync page. In here you select the midi in port that you connected to on the left hand side and the midi out port on the right.

Select the sync mode (i'm using midi clock at the moment) then the rest of the settings will be in Acid so you'll have to read up on that bit, should be in your manual
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By HARRY HUSTLE Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:23 pm
^^^ spirez wdupp man??

yea, well maybe thats my prob'....see like for turntable/vinyl samples, i just have a rca cable and on one side i added a 1/4 inch stereo adapter...then i can run it right to my soundcards input and record directly in acid...i was hopin' mpc would be the same concept....

and theres my problem, because i have a delta 44 soundcard and guess what...lol...no midi...

i was hoping i could run a 1/4 to 1/4 from one of the outputs on the mpc aint there like 8 different ones back there (not sure) then just run it to the delta....and have the same effect....

looks like i either am going to have to change my soundcard or see if theres some type of midi adpater thingy binger...lol....which sucks because im short on ends at the moment and to top it off know someone selling a motif es rack for 700 US...and its like 2 months old.....so thats making me cringe....BUT i guess at that point i would need midi once again for the rack...atleast i already have a xboard controller hahah helps a little....

but yea thanks man....looks like thats what was f'in me up cause i figured there would be others ways......always suntn right? lol...