Post your views and questions about the Akai MPC2500
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By savilion Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:59 pm
Ok first off... i v went through a million posts .... I have managed to sync my 2500 to nuendo ....but ....when I record my tracks in .....the first kick is delayed.....and the rest of the kicks are ahead of the click in nuendo.....anyone else have this problem.....I m not sure if its a nuendo problem or an mpc one


Thanks

Savilionator
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By jahrome Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:37 pm
Are you trying to record MIDI or Audio into Nuendo? What sync protocal are you using? MTC, MMC, Midi clock?

If you are recording MIDI, you will have to insert empty bars at the beginning of your Nuendo tracks oand/or MPC tracks to give both sequencers time to sync/lock up with one another.

To answer your question directly, yes. I have the same problem.
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By savilion Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:00 pm
word ......Thank you for the quick responce I was recording a mixture of audio and midi.......but .... just tryed recording strictly audio into nuendo and this was the result........I made a sequence of just snares on everyclick I recorded the 8 bar loop into nuendo...as I found all of my snares on each click was early when I zoomed in....... I m syncing with mmc ...nuendo being the master.....in sync setup in nuendo i have and internal timecode source..should I change this...aswell i have...anything else I can do.... my card is a presonus firepod......its weird this just started happining to me ....maybe I changed somthin in nuendo....any help would be apprecated
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By jahrome Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:21 pm
There are several variables in trying to get the MPC and Nuendo to sync properly and everyone will come up with different results because we are using different pieces of gear: MIDI interface, audio interface, latency issues, etc.

I use my MPC as the master sequencer which sequences everything from my sound modules to software synths. I do all sequence editing onboard the MPC. When a song is complete, I record it into Nuendo as audio.


I haven't tried much editing of instruments withing Nuendo. The only editing I do is with vocals, because I also found what you are doing difficult.

Next month, I am taking college classes on MIDI and recording so hopefully, I will come away with a better understanding and can better/fully utilize the tools at my disposal...

...back to your problem, you can record your loops into Nuendo and use the nudge functions to move the audio around. You can also do all the sequencing on the MPC, save it as a MIDI file and import the MIDI file into Nuendo or vice versa...


Also..have to tried turning off MMC, and using MTC or MIDI clock to see if you get the same results?
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By savilion Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:38 pm
yep...somtimes i use the mpc to sequence my soft vsti's aswell as hardsynths..... I use to be able to record my midi aswell as audio in one shot with out anything glitching or going out of sync....I must have changed a setting in nuendo....I m gonna try midi clock or or mtc right now I ll let u know the results.....I mean it couldent be a latency problem with my sound card could it .....because its synced when I monitor when i m recording ...but when I look at the wave file ...the snares are hitting a teeny bit early .....it would really suck to go in and nudge all my snares.... when i m recording midi their is no problems at all all the instruements are insync ....but when it comes to the audio WAMP WAMP shit is early



Thanks for the help so much Jahrome I m glad I m not strugglin my self with this ish
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By jahrome Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:51 pm
No problem...

But latency will always play even a small part of what we are doing because even the best interfaces will still net a milli-second of latency.

I always use all audio or all MIDI to get around some issues.

I must add that no MPC I have ever used sync'd exactly the same as other models. The 2500 has more of a delay than any MPC I can remember off the top.
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By savilion Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:53 pm
Ok tryed the mpc as the master this time.....used mtc instead of mmc or midi clock ..aswell it seems to be insync when I listen but when I look at the wave the snare is still early.... I m gonna go pull my hair out and blaze one up...
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By jahrome Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:59 pm
Hmmm...the MPC audio is early versus later??
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By savilion Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:08 pm
yeah man I v never had this problem ever.....the snare hits a bit earlyer then the beat.....befour I could use the quantize and chop stuff up in nuendo.....now when I go to chop a snare out or somthing it chops half of the start of the snare off.....its like reverse latency!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the hell is happining in life!
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By jahrome Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:41 pm
Did you try entering an empty bar at the beginning of your tracks (Nuendo and/or the MPC)?
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By savilion Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:15 pm
yeah tryed that still off sync..... maybe their is somthing I did to make audio placed earlyer I have no idea...... I m gonna mess around now!
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By savilion Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:42 pm
In nuendo

Transport>sync setup looks like this

Timecode source= Internal Timecode

Machien controll Settings =mmc input>my midi in on myfirepod /mmc out= midi out on the firepod

mmc device id=All



Machien control options =mmc is checked

Midi clock destination = my midi out on my firepod

I donno if I m doing somthing wrong but 3 weeks ago when I recorded a track into nuendo things were fine
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By jahrome Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:52 pm
So with your settings, it appears as if Nuendo is the master...is that right?

If the MPC is the master, Nuendo shouldn't be set to internal.

By soundasleep Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:26 am
i allready started a post about this same problem with pro-tools. i've had the same exact problem as you with both protools and digital performer. as far as the first kick being delayed, that's an mpc thing that's been going on since the mpc60. you just gotta have a couple bars of blank time at the beginning of your song or whatever to give the mpc time to lock.

but as far as the early thing... this has been the case since OS1.2 and is also a problem on 1.21. it's been such a problem for me that i'm back to using 1.1 so that it actually locks up to the grid. OS's 1.0 and 1.1 do not have that problem.

AKAI... please fix this problem!
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By jahrome Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:33 am
Well, let me eat my pizza and watch ATL then I will play around with this MIDI sync for the rest of the evening..