updating to 1.22

Ok, so I think I'll update to 1.22 to see if maybe, just maybe it might give me some sound coming out of the machine again. My question is: what happens when you update an OS to let's say 1.22, and then upload 1.21 on top of that? Do do you lose all the fixed things from the newer operating system?

god damn...you dont deserve an mpc

are you trying to upgrade or downgrade...this has to be by far the dumbest question on this forum I have read so far. This is coming from new mpc user, where the **** is your logic!

dax917 wrote:Ok, so I think I'll update to 1.22 to see if maybe, just maybe it might give me some sound coming out of the machine again. My question is: what happens when you update an OS to let's say 1.22, and then upload 1.21 on top of that? Do do you lose all the fixed things from the newer operating system?

Whichever OS you upload will eliminate the previous version you had whether upgrade or downgrade. So you wouldn't be uploading "on top of". You'd be loading the same old OS 1.21.

oh ok, because I read in the forums that people were having drum pad problems with 1.22, and the user said that he reverted to 1.21 and the problem was gone, so I was wondering "what about the things that 1.22 was supposed to fix, do you keep those?" but I see not. Thanks mrcrappypantson. My machine stopped playing sound all together after it turned all my internal files to "$#!#!!" symbols and people recommend updating my OS, but I had to be clear on the isues that those OS' have as well. By "on top of" I meant like painting white "on top of" a colored wall, just going over something as in replacing it, I should have chose better words. Thanks.

Ok, konc3pt, are you seriously gonna tell someone you don't even know what they do and don't deserve because of a question you heard that you don't even know the history of?? I'm an illustration artist and a musician, not a tech guy. Some of the illest producers you look up to don't know the difference of this sht either, until some tech guy puts it in his ear and remembers it for life, I would know. Do you think producers get it all from the manual? Hell no theres people all around them. Just as some of the illest programmers that can make this machine walk on its own if they wanted to couldn't make a good musical sounding beat for sht. If mpc's are a musicians tool then who deserves an mpc really? I'm being diplomatic now, but really how would you react if someone you didn't even know spoke to you like that? You didn't have to reply at all. I'm sure mrcrappypantson thought it was a dumb question too, at least he had some **** class. "god damn you don't deserve an mpc"? "where the **** is your logic"? Who do you think your talking to like that? Are you serious konc3pt? Do you talk to people that way when you're not hiding behind a computer too?? I won't say much more, but either you have phenominal skills, or just never been punched in the mouth for talking to somone that way, sh!t maybe its both.

dax917 wrote:oh ok, because I read in the forums that people were having drum pad problems with 1.22, and the user said that he reverted to 1.21 and the problem was gone, so I was wondering "what about the things that 1.22 was supposed to fix, do you keep those?" but I see not. Thanks mrcrappypantson. My machine stopped playing sound all together after it turned all my internal files to "$#!#!!" symbols and people recommend updating my OS, but I had to be clear on the isues that those OS' have as well. By "on top of" I meant like painting white "on top of" a colored wall, just going over something as in replacing it, I should have chose better words. Thanks.

Not a problem. Think of an OS update as starting from scratch with bug fixes and/or new features. Revert to an older OS and get exactly what that particular OS's issues were. Some may want to revert because the new OS created newer bugs and are willing to deal with the older bugs instead of the new. Did that make sense?

mrcrappypantson, Yes it did, thats the first thing that came to my mind before when you said "eliminates the previous version". Thanks for the help.

. My machine stopped playing sound all together after it turned all my internal files to "$#!#!!" symbols


Damn that sux.......Those files were on your Harddrive or CF card? Did this just happen suddenly ? Do you save to a new folder every time or just replace the existing one with new data? Do you create a new file before working? Why do you think it happend? How is your file tree set up and what harddrive do you have installed?

Those files were on your Harddrive or CF card?

They were on my internal hard drive, but my CF card is having trouble too since I saved sounds A through Z in a "DRUMS FOLDER" and went to load it, it said "END OF FILE". When I checked inside the folder only sound A through E were in there.. LOVELY!

Did this just happen suddenly ?

Yes, when I started using the machine it worked fine, I installed the Hard Drive and CD-ROM and everything was great for 4 months. 2 weeks ago everything started to deteriorate inside so to speak.

Do you save to a new folder every time or just replace the existing one with new data?

My overly anal-retentive obsessive compulsive Virgo habits force me to put everything in a seperate folder alphabetized including the date it was created.

Do you create a new file before working?

At first no, I didn't know what I wanted to name the folder before I started working, but after my mpc2500 started freezing whenever I went to NAME A FOLDER, I then began to create folders before I started working. By the way.. how that worked was: I had to create the folder>name it>the machine would freeze>I restart the machine>the folder I made was still there>after I make a beat save it in the folder.

Why do you think it happend?

I have no clue, see I played piano since 12 and brought records to engineers when I was 13 and tell THEM what to do with it beacuse we were now allowed to touch these peoples equipment. Years later I got my own ASR-10/mpc3000, read the manuals, and made tracks and co-produced major songs. When something goes wrong we take it to Rogues or Armen's shop in the city and he tested it and fixed it. Thats how it worked. However for me to understand what goes wrong with files and drives is technical and what the computer programming students at school know or people into elctricity itself understand. I can't bring myself to understand it, I only have colors, beats, and samples in my head.

How is your file tree set up and what harddrive do you have installed?

My file tree after ROOT is: each folder is named according to what it is. "Drums Sounds"(and source) withing that is the "kits" I constructed, other folders are "Loops", "Sampled Sounds", "Tracks" and within that is the song named and the dates it was done. not sure if that explains the "tree" but hopefully you can imagine it. The hard drive I have installed is the 80GB Toshiba that was Tested by Akia on their website.