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Sup!

Has anyone left thier MPC's running for a excessive amount of time without powering off? is their any known affects for leaving the machine on for a 2-3 days?

yeah it can overheat and freeze up like my friends did.

If it would overheat, it would do so after a short time already I guess. How long did he leave it running before it froze, and was it used heavily before it did? Overheating should only be a problem if you prevent proper ventilation.

The most delicate part, at least for the older MPCs, is the screen I think, but the newer screens should be more durable. Everything else should be fine. PC servers run 24/7 as well after all. The most straining part for the hardware is the power-cycling, the quick heating/cooling down during that and so on. Anyway, I personally wouldn't leave it on for days at a time if I only used it maybe 20% of that time.

Precize1 wrote:Sup!

Has anyone left thier MPC's running for a excessive amount of time without powering off? is their any known affects for leaving the machine on for a 2-3 days?

Like Stilo mentioned, my only concern would be the LCD screen. I mean, wouldn't expect the backlight to last forever.

nah its good for a solid 5 6 days then it would start glitching then u yould have to reboot it then it would be fine

not really related to the topic...but I leave my motif on for weeks. Or until it gets unpluged on accident. not sure why they couldnt make the mpc like that.

why leave your equipment on when you're not using it? why put excess strain on it when you don't have to? the main reason these units have the ability to save is so that you don't have to keep them on.

plus, when some people buy second-hand equipment, they like to know how many hours of use are on the equipment. if i was shoppin for some equipment and the seller told me "i've had it for X years, and i'd keep it on for days at a time", i'd move along and wouldn't buy.

Mike Feedback wrote:why leave your equipment on when you're not using it? why put excess strain on it when you don't have to? the main reason these units have the ability to save is so that you don't have to keep them on.

what exess strain are you talking about?

I was advised by a very knowledgable yamaha respresntative on motifator.com Phil Coleman aka bad_mister that is actually better for the motif to be on at all times than turned on and off. at the same time skip load time of drum kits, patches and system configuration

if I'm not mistaken he's had his on for about a year now continously, and no problems or excess strain ?

Mike Feedback wrote:plus, when some people buy second-hand equipment, they like to know how many hours of use are on the equipment. if i was shoppin for some equipment and the seller told me "i've had it for X years, and i'd keep it on for days at a time", i'd move along and wouldn't buy.

I guess you will never be rocking a 3000, 60, white xl, 950, emax, asr, sp1200 or any other vintage goodie for that matter

konc3pt wrote:I guess you will never be rocking a 3000, 60, white xl, 950, emax, asr, sp1200 or any other vintage goodie for that matter

actually, i've had an s950 for the last 5 years and before i picked up the 2500 in september 06, i had the off-white 2000xl for 6 years. sold the 2000xl less than a year ago since i wasn't using it.

i've also had second-hand event 20/20bas monitor speakers for a number of years now, and when i bought them, i sure as heck found out how many hours of use they had on them before hand.

but in case you were unaware, the electrical components inside of your equipment do have a lifetime, they won't last forever. the longer you keep the equipment on, the quicker that lifetime depreciates. in other words, your equipment should last longer if you keep it off while you're not using it.

that's why the backlight on my s950 still works, because i keep it off when i'm not using it. if i had it on for the last 5 years, that sucker would've burned out a long time ago.

and by the way, PC servers do run 24/7, but that's because there's a business need for them to run 24/7. in most cases they do get rebooted on a regular schedule since if left on for too long their performance sometimes starts to lag due to programs not properly de-allocating memory and issues such as that. at my work, we make sure to have a couple hours of down time at night when jobs aren't running so that server upgrades can be performed and reboots can be taken care of.

do you realize that you contradict yourself ?. cuz I'm pretty positive they stopped making 950's in the early 90's, and not early 2000. so how many hours of use is that since then ?

Mike Feedback wrote:plus, when some people buy second-hand equipment, they like to know how many hours of use are on the equipment. if i was shoppin for some equipment and the seller told me "i've had it for X years, and i'd keep it on for days at a time", i'd move along and wouldn't buy.

Mike Feedback wrote:
actually, i've had an s950 for the last 5 years and before i picked up the 2500 in september 06, i had the off-white 2000xl for 6 years. sold the 2000xl less than a year ago since i wasn't using it.

Mike Feedback wrote:but in case you were unaware, the electrical components inside of your equipment do have a lifetime, they won't last forever. the longer you keep the equipment on, the quicker that lifetime depreciates. in other words, your equipment should last longer if you keep it off while you're not using it.

that's why the backlight on my s950 still works, because i keep it off when i'm not using it. if i had it on for the last 5 years, that sucker would've burned out a long time ago.

alright mike, I'll just go ahead and take your word for it, yamaha people dont know jack shit about equipment they making

and in case you were unawre problem with older mpc's and rack sampler is t he backlight burns out after period of time. havent heard anyone replacing backlights ion newer units.

Mike Feedback wrote:and by the way, PC servers do run 24/7, but that's because there's a business need for them to run 24/7. in most cases they do get rebooted on a regular schedule since if left on for too long their performance sometimes starts to lag due to programs not properly de-allocating memory and issues such as that. at my work, we make sure to have a couple hours of down time at night when jobs aren't running so that server upgrades can be performed and reboots can be taken care of.

again, homeboy is running hosting company, 1000+ servers and I havent heard about him turning off customers server/website/business for any down time. I think I'd look for different hosting company if that shit ever happened to me

i didn't contradict myself at all. i think you may have misread.

i said if i was buying used equipment and someone said that they "had it for X years, and [would] keep it on for days at a time", i wouldn't buy it.

so clearly, the person that i bought the s950 from DIDN'T keep it on for days at a time, and it in fact was used sparingly, otherwise i wouldn't have bought it.

konc3pt wrote:again, homeboy is running hosting company, 1000+ servers and I havent heard about him turning off customers server/website/business for any down time. I think I'd look for different hosting company if that **** ever happened to me

ever hear of backup servers? how about clustering? the host you have your webserver running on could be restarting the servers that your website runs on regularly and you wouldn't have any down time.

i'm not tryin to argue, if dude from yamaha said that it's better to keep it on, then you can go ahead and keep it on for all i care. i'm going to continue to turn my equipment off when i'm not using it. if nothing else it at least saves electricity.

mike I think it's pretty obvious you can't leave a blender on for X years, but there is xeptions... alls I'm saying

also, as an FYI i recall reading in the mpc1000 forum a while back that someone used to leave their 1000 on for days at a time, and since the 1000's power supply is located directly underneath the screen, the heat from the power supply ended up either burning or melting the screen. the 2500 shouldn't have that problem since it has the tiltable screen, but just something to think about.

Come on guys...don't start a fight again.

You're both right. There are both effects, the power-up/power-down cycle straining the hardware, and the continuous wear when running for a long time. I often wonder myself where the "breakeven" point is from which it is more economical to leave e.g. a PC on continuously vs. turning it back on each day. Whether it is a few months or a few years, who knows. But I'm with Mike when saying why leave it on continuously when you don't have to - simply because of electricity prices nowadays.

Mike Feedback wrote:and by the way, PC servers do run 24/7, but that's because there's a business need for them to run 24/7. in most cases they do get rebooted on a regular schedule since if left on for too long their performance sometimes starts to lag due to programs not properly de-allocating memory and issues such as that.

But that's a software issue, you have to admit