WORK FLOW!!!

streetbeats wrote:

AWW_NAWW wrote:Funny all you have to d o is what you want to doe be it 2k or 4k
I can get around on the 4k just as fast as I could move around on my 2k (CLASSIC) but it wasn't always that way.

hell Im at the point where I can get down in the dark with no lights on like I use to with the 2k

i feel ya aww but what we saying is, for example you know on the 2k you only got the low pass filter so you use that and that's it.........on the 4k use the low pass and then you like but what about trying the band pass, etc. next thing you knwo you fking with the kick for an hour and forgot ya idea. This is just my experience, i get easily sidetracked.

The 4k just has more options but that dont mean your work flow wont be the same or better. Having more filters dont slow down the flow sometimes the lack of it might be the reason it took so long to finish the beat at first

In terms of manipulating samples, the 4000 is different, but in terms of sequencing, the 4000 is exactly the same as all the other MPCs.

it can do more than the others can. it can do fader or knob automation recording to start. piano roll editing, drum grid, phrase clipboard, 32 channel internal midi control of itself!!! and the 64 point modulation matirx is both a sample and sequencer use.

Right..I just meant that the "workflow" is pretty much identical to the 2000xl when you're just talking basic sequencing. It's not any more complex when you're banging sequences out.

very true that's why so many peopl still use the 2kxl!

my input on this... being an avid 2k user since 97...

workflow is important. time is important. if you can cut out just FIVE minutes an hour... that's a month a year. IF you worked nonstop 24/7.

anyways...

i just got the 2500, about 5 days ago. everything is different (compared to my 2000xl). on my XL i was as fast as i type... i knew where everything was.

samples load faster. even faster than my 4000. you can load whole folders, as well. it's just quicker all around. those seconds that you can save in sound edit mode (drawing on the 2K series is SLOW) and browsing samples (remember, the original 2k didn't have folders... that was nOt fun) can save you time in the long run.

i think a quicker OS, coupled with re-training of the knowledge of the product, integrated in your "work flow" can improve productivity 25% or more. more time to spend with yo girl.

then again... i think humans fear change more than anything. i'm VERY happy with my 2500... but not lookig forward to re-learning everything. (window button? OH... you mean OPEN.)

i feel ya aww but what we saying is, for example you know on the 2k you only got the low pass filter so you use that and that's it.........on the 4k use the low pass and then you like but what about trying the band pass, etc. next thing you knwo you fking with the kick for an hour and forgot ya idea. This is just my experience, i get easily sidetracked.

and that is such a valid point...everyone is in this hole (specaliy softwhere bobs)

the key is to know what you want before you start grabbing tools!! ..

that said if your not into sound design or really into modulating your wav or no little of sythesis and you just wanna lay your chops down then a MPC other than the 4k is a better choise imo

as far as workflow goes for me presonally the 4k smokes the other mpc's (came from an xl actually and the differance is amazing) one is cool to chop up wav files one can produce your wav files yha know ..
there's no going back ever!!