Which MPC? 2000 or 2000xl?

Ok. I want a classic MPC - don't need any of the fancy shiznit that the 1000 or 2500 do as I am currently using Ableton Live, just something fun that I can bash out some beats and sample a few break on.

I know that the 2000 doesn't do zone slicing or anything; how easy (really) is the sample chopping on it. If it's easy enough to either cut up from scratch or learn how to do it quickly, I'll probably go with the 2k as I've got one, boxed, ready to go for less than £300.

If, however, the extra money and wait is worth the 2kXL (and remember, we're just talking a fun, great-sounding addition to my studio here) then I'll hold off.

As I said, I don't want anything too hefty, just a bit of fun! Thought

Go with the XL, 'nough said.

I have been around, and making beats for a while. You couldn't tell by my dumb questions. I usually just made the beats, and didnt want to get distracted by tracking, and all kinds of technical ish... I have a MPC 2000 Classic, and I would never use anything else. Yeah the XL has a few nice/conveinient features that the classic doesn't; but the sound of the classic is just better to me for some reason. I can't poin tit out, but there's just something different. Maybe more raw, or heavy, or whatever you want to call it. As far as chopping.. yeah auto slice is cool and all, but manual chopping is the way to go for me. Once you get good at it; it's simple on the classic, and much more organic. PEace!@!!

acq1 wrote:I have been around, and making beats for a while. You couldn't tell by my dumb questions. I usually just made the beats, and didnt want to get distracted by tracking, and all kinds of technical ish... I have a MPC 2000 Classic, and I would never use anything else. Yeah the XL has a few nice/conveinient features that the classic doesn't; but the sound of the classic is just better to me for some reason. I can't poin tit out, but there's just something different. Maybe more raw, or heavy, or whatever you want to call it. As far as chopping.. yeah auto slice is cool and all, but manual chopping is the way to go for me. Once you get good at it; it's simple on the classic, and much more organic. PEace!@!!

Doubt it! They made them with all the same parts. The part numbers are the same for almost everything.

2kxl ALL DAY

if only there was a mod to put the classic jog wheel on the xl

mr_debauch wrote:if only there was a mod to put the classic jog wheel on the xl

The 2k and xl are basically the same..

But the XL has "time stretch" and "zone chop",and a flip up screen.

http://www.mpc2000xl.com/summary.htm

Summary of differences between MPC2000 and MPC2000XL

Both use same Effects board, 8-out expander and the sample engine between them is essentially the same. Many improvements on the Seqeucner section and a few added features in the sample editing area:

-XL sequencer memory increased from 100,000 events to 300,000

-XL dedicated Next Sequence button

-XL has 4 buttons for pad/bank selection vs the former 1

-XL can access 4 drum programs simultaneously, essentially making it 4 part multitimbral

-Number of samples stored doubled to 256 on the XL

-Folder support for storage on the XL

-XL can switch between sequences using the pads (just like the track mute/unmute screen)

-XL has SUDDEN button added to immediately switch to next sequence

-XL has 2nd sequence function allows you to associate another sequence to play simultaneously with current one.

-XL can solo from track mute/unmute screen

-XL can change sequences with program changes

-XL Device naming for each midi channel

-XL Midi monitor screen

-XL has improved multiple track recording by specifying which tracks to record and what channels for soft through

-XL Resample a sound with a different bit depth or sampling rate

-XL Zone mode allows you to select up to 16 zones

-XL Slice function. When samples zoned like above, you can automatically create new program (with pad assignments and with extra specified samples at end of each sample because of the sample decay ). (Sort of like Recycle, but you have to manual zone the sample)

-XL Timestretch function with slightly modifiable presets: 1. FEM VOX 2. MALE VOX 3. LOW MALE VOX 4. VOCAL 5. HFREQ RHYTHM 6. MFREQ RHYTHM 7. LFREQ RHYTHM 8. PERCUSSION 9. LFREQ PERC. 10. STACCATO 11. LFREQ SLOW 12. MUSIC 1 13. MUSIC 2 14. MUSIC 3 15. SOFT PERC. 16. HFREQ ORCH. 17. LFREQ ORCH. 18. SLOW ORCH.

-XL has automatic Chromatic assignment. Essentially allows you to create a keygroup across the key/pads from one sample.

-XL has internal IDE port so you can replace the floppy with a Zip drive.

-New List price of the XL is much lower than the new list price of the former model.

-XL has a swivel screen and comes in three color schemes.

-You can now switch from REC/OVERDUB to PLAY and vice versa without having to stop the sequencer.

BUT THE 2K CLASSIC IS STILL THE SHIT THOUGH!!!!!
**** THE XL