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By DBoyzEnt Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:09 am
I am a complete noob. I'm having trouble finding much information on the mpc 2k, like youtube vids and tutorials and such. I may have an opportunity to sell my 2k and then buy a 2kxl. Should I go that route? I see this site sells a tutorial on the xl and there's more youtube vids to help me out. Should I make this move. Or should I off the classic and save up some bread for a 1k? Help me out, please.
By BGBEATS Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:41 am
Summary of differences between MPC2000 and MPC2000XL

Both use same Effects board, 8-out expander and the sample engine between them is essentially the same. Many improvements on the Seqeucner section and a few added features in the sample editing area:

-XL sequencer memory increased from 100,000 events to 300,000

-XL dedicated Next Sequence button

-XL has 4 buttons for pad/bank selection vs the former 1

-XL can access 4 drum programs simultaneously, essentially making it 4 part multitimbral

-Number of samples stored doubled to 256 on the XL

-Folder support for storage on the XL

-XL can switch between sequences using the pads (just like the track mute/unmute screen)

-XL has SUDDEN button added to immediately switch to next sequence

-XL has 2nd sequence function allows you to associate another sequence to play simultaneously with current one.

-XL can solo from track mute/unmute screen

-XL can change sequences with program changes

-XL Device naming for each midi channel

-XL Midi monitor screen

-XL has improved multiple track recording by specifying which tracks to record and what channels for soft through

-XL Resample a sound with a different bit depth or sampling rate

-XL Zone mode allows you to select up to 16 zones

-XL Slice function. When samples zoned like above, you can automatically create new program (with pad assignments and with extra specified samples at end of each sample because of the sample decay ). (Sort of like Recycle, but you have to manual zone the sample)

-XL Timestretch function with slightly modifiable presets: 1. FEM VOX 2. MALE VOX 3. LOW MALE VOX 4. VOCAL 5. HFREQ RHYTHM 6. MFREQ RHYTHM 7. LFREQ RHYTHM 8. PERCUSSION 9. LFREQ PERC. 10. STACCATO 11. LFREQ SLOW 12. MUSIC 1 13. MUSIC 2 14. MUSIC 3 15. SOFT PERC. 16. HFREQ ORCH. 17. LFREQ ORCH. 18. SLOW ORCH.

-XL has automatic Chromatic assignment. Essentially allows you to create a keygroup across the key/pads from one sample.

-XL has internal IDE port so you can replace the floppy with a Zip drive.

-New List price of the XL is much lower than the new list price of the former model.

-XL has a swivel screen and comes in three color schemes.

-You can now switch from REC/OVERDUB to PLAY and vice versa without having to stop the sequencer
Last edited by BGBEATS on Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
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By JUKE 179r Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:35 pm
BGBEATS wrote:-XL has a swivel screen and comes in five color schemes.


Fixed! :wink:
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By dirtyrum Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:47 pm
DBoyzEnt wrote:I am a complete noob. I'm having trouble finding much information on the mpc 2k, like youtube vids and tutorials and such. I may have an opportunity to sell my 2k and then buy a 2kxl. Should I go that route? I see this site sells a tutorial on the xl and there's more youtube vids to help me out. Should I make this move. Or should I off the classic and save up some bread for a 1k? Help me out, please.


Have you used your 2k yet? If not I would suggest maybe trying it out before you buy another MPC.
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By Lampdog Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:52 pm
dirtyrum wrote:Have you used your 2k yet? If not I would suggest maybe trying it out before you buy another MPC.

+1
By DBoyzEnt Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:45 am
I'm currently trying to learn the 2k. I have turntables, studio monitors, my scsi zip w/ a bunch of sounds and such. All of which I bought after obtaining the 2k. I'm having difficulties with chopping samples out to different pads, and just a bunch of other questions. I want to purchase a tutorial and see some how to vids on the most basic things on the mpc, and I seem to be able find more info on the xl. Also with the extra features added to the xl i'm sure was added to make things a little easier. Like the tutorial thats to the right of this page is for the xl. I'd be making a pretty much even trade for the xl. there's a guy thats gonna pay me $400 and then there's another guy that's gonna sell me his xl for $400. So i won't be loosing anything. Plus his has max ram and my 2k doesn't. But I also had my eye on the 1k. How should I go about this?
By BGBEATS Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:53 am
DBoyzEnt wrote:I'm currently trying to learn the 2k. I have turntables, studio monitors, my scsi zip w/ a bunch of sounds and such. All of which I bought after obtaining the 2k. I'm having difficulties with chopping samples out to different pads, and just a bunch of other questions. I want to purchase a tutorial and see some how to vids on the most basic things on the mpc, and I seem to be able find more info on the xl. Also with the extra features added to the xl i'm sure was added to make things a little easier. Like the tutorial thats to the right of this page is for the xl. I'd be making a pretty much even trade for the xl. there's a guy thats gonna pay me $400 and then there's another guy that's gonna sell me his xl for $400. So i won't be loosing anything. Plus his has max ram and my 2k doesn't. But I also had my eye on the 1k. How should I go about this?



based on this post,


I'd say go ahead and get your 2kxl get the tutorial e-book and get to mastering that machine
By Jean Claude Trans Am Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:13 am
Am I wrong to think that the classic and XL are similar, and switching machines wouldn't be much of a difference? I haven't used the classic before, so I don't really know, but I thought they were very similar and that you could pretty much relate stuff from the XL to the classic, correct me if i'm wrong though.
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By Lampdog Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:58 am
Classic is max 64 pads of sounds in 1 program.

xl is max 256 pads of sounds in 4 programs.

and that is just 1 of the differences.

They are NOT the same at all. MANY upgrades to functions. Same BASIC functions and most of the menus
are the same BUT there are differences. I've used BOTH alot so I've noticed the differences.

Motherboard is also different as in what it can accomodate.

xl = 40pin atapi/ide devices (regular ole school computer devices, mcd or zip!!!).
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By dasinsation Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:31 am
I know what you are thinking, but if you can't learn the basics of the Classic (which has less features), why do you feel you can learn the XL faster/better and it has MORE features than the Classic :?:

Regardless of what you get, hardware, software, new or old, you are going to have to start somewhere, either by :idea: reading a manual, watching YouTube videos, pressing buttons :idea: and figuring things out or something (feels weird using commas inappropriately ha ha).

Download the manual (it's free) figure out the basics, then build from there. The 2K Classic is a dope machine, don't sleep 8)
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By watupange Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:11 am
im fine with my 2000 classic now.. but i heard the xl is a little better.. never used an xl tho.. and dont get the 1000! i hate the 1000.. but thats just my preference
By BGBEATS Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:15 am
watupange wrote: and dont get the 1000! i hate the 1000..




what made you hate the 1000 so much?


just curious
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By watupange Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:24 am
BGBEATS wrote:
watupange wrote: and dont get the 1000! i hate the 1000..




what made you hate the 1000 so much?


just curious


the 1000 was so difficult.. even with the things i already knew were difficult for some reason.. i love the 2000.. easy to use, less complicated
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By watupange Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:41 am
and some dudes would be like "oh this has effects and double programming(or whatever its called lol) and all this stuff" but i never use this stuff.. i just sample, mix it on the mixer, and make the beat.. if i need any effects or anything like that, i just go to the mixer