Thinking of selling my Ren for a 60 II

What's up everyone. I'm thinking about selling my Ren and trying to get a MPC 60 II.

Not a sure thing yet because i actually do like the Ren a lot it just has one problem that is like a deal breaker. It crashes. Which we all know it does.

I've always wanted a 60 II and that's the other issue. I've been searching but it's almost impossible to find a new one huh. Or maybe I'm not looking hard enough. I just love the punchy sound of it but weary about being it used online unless you guys can point me to a good website with good sellers. I've come across MPCHunter but don't know the reputation of the site.

I'd also be willing to give the 2000xl a try but would prefer the 60 II. And I'm open to other MPCs just don't know much about them. I've only worked on the Ren and 5k and i know i don't want the 5k.

What i do basically is sample. I even sample my drums. Any suggestions would be helpful and appreciated. Also looking into the S950 if I can get the 60 II.

you wont find a new 60ii... those came out over 20 years ago.

you can find one in nice condition.. mpc hunter is a blog that compiles ebay listings.. plus the guy who runs that site is a member here and knows a lot about mpcs. He isn't selling them I don't think.. it's just linking you to auctions selling them.

DJ Straxger wrote:I've always wanted a 60 II and that's the other issue. I've been searching but it's almost impossible to find a new one huh.

Finding a new MPC, that was made 25+ years ago...yep, impossible!

I would get the MPC60 first, before selling the Renaissance, to make sure you can live with it's limitations.

Yeah i wish i knew someone with a 60 so I could play around with it.

What MPCs would you guys recommend for my sampling style of pruduction?

I wish the Ren didn't crash because i love it but that crashing I can tell I'm not going to be able to live with that.

The guy from MPC Hunter what's his username on here?

Thanks for the responses and advice

that is his name.. maybe there is an underscore.. not sure.

just keep in mind the 60 is the first mpc... so it wont have some of the new features that the ren has or other new mpcs.


it's tough to recommend a model though because all the hardware mpcs have different features and tricks... and all of them share some of the same tricks. You really need to decide what you want to use the machine for, and what you expect the thing to do.

mr_debauch wrote:it's tough to recommend a model though because all the hardware mpcs have different features and tricks... and all of them share some of the same tricks. You really need to decide what you want to use the machine for, and what you expect the thing to do.

Thanks bro. That's some good advice. I wish I knew people with different MPCs so I can experiment a little instead of just researching but I do want to get one that I can stick with for YEARS to come. I don't want to be hopping from machine to machine.

the 60 is a great one. its my favorite of all mpcs i've tried. i'm very surprised though how satisfied people have been with their rens despite the bad reviews it had first. i am growing more and more convinced it does a great job after the latest updates and the filter emulation of mpc 3000 is spot on.

if you are the kind of guy who likes to use a standalone drum machine like the other mpcs and like sampling, especially drums, i strongly recommend the mpc 60. its got great swing. also 2000xl i am sure does a great job.

if you decide to buy one be patient because good deals do come up. i would say definitely give it a try if you mostly sample records, which i understand you are.

regarding the ren, i wouldn't diss it that fast. try the 60 first but keep the ren. then if it suits you, flip the ren.

soundtech wrote:Ii'm very surprised though how satisfied people have been with their rens despite the bad reviews it had first. i am growing more and more convinced it does a great job after the latest updates and the filter emulation of mpc 3000 is spot on.

regarding the ren, i wouldn't diss it that fast. try the 60 first but keep the ren. then if it suits you, flip the ren.

Yeah i have no idea why the Ren was getting such bad reviews. I love everything about it besides the crashing/freezing whichever you want to call it.

I use vintage mode set to MPC60 and it sounds alright but that 60 sound just can't be emulated.

I figured I'm going to have to do some saving because you guys are right selling the Ren for a different machine could be a disaster. The grass may not be greener on the other side so I'm going to save up first and keep the Ren just in case i don't like the 60 or whatever I end up getting.

If you get a MPC60 you kinda need a S900 or S950 to go along with it if you ask me, considering the 60 doesnt have any filters, but hey thats just my 5 cents.

I used to own a 60 mk1 and that was awesome, the armrest is sweeet!

But on a sidenote - dont expect it to sound grimey and gritty, its pretty clean.
A lot of people say it sounds like the s900/s950, it doesnt even come close. They made the 60 to be more clean than the s950 (which Premier use for his drums)


Im using the 3k nowdays and couldnt be happier, but it all comes down to YOU and the music you wanna do.

Im not sure what country you're in (OP)...

But here in the UK, a mint MPC60 with all the bells and whistles will cost you more than a brand new MPC Renaissance (average retail £700.00).

When people say "I want an MPC60", there is the low end of the market which comprises of beat up, damaged or faulty machines. Then there is the top end of the market for maxed out machines, near mint, serviced, in collectors condition. These are as close to being "New" as you'll ever get. Most are still in use, but some are packed away in storage or 'just for show'. Due to gearlust many of us have two, just in case.

Upgrading a stock machine can be quite a costly exercise, but when you consider how much these machines originally cost (£3500.00/$5000.00), it helps to put any financial outlay into perspective.

If your finances are tight, how about an MPC Studio and an MPC60? A modern MPC that works with .wav files is a great partner for the MPC60. Use it to store, process, chop, stretch, reverse, and audition your samples. Sample into the MPC60 and sequence, job done.

Clint wrote:
If your finances are tight, how about an MPC Studio and an MPC60? A modern MPC that works with .wav files is a great partner for the MPC60. Use it to store, process, chop, stretch, reverse, and audition your samples. Sample into the MPC60 and sequence, job done.

Great advice

peace

going from the latest mpc with possibly the easiest workflow ever and tons of features making vsts and plugins work together in the mpc effortlessly to one of the first mpcs ever made over 25 years ago...? LOL wow

Can't go wrong with an MPC500. We call it the MPC3000 mini

Go for it, but to get the best work flow; get a good quality audio interface like saffire pro 40, using reaper or tracktion for recording duties, and applying real time effects. Enables you to record or your individual tracks. If just using computer for multi-tracking and the odd effect you won't have any crashes.

If you want the 60 to be grimey you can
sample the material (preferably vinyl or
somehow little dirty already) pitched up
an octave, then pitch back down in the 60.
You then effectively sampling at half the
samplerate (20kHz). Along with lower quality
pitch shifting algorithms of the time, does
a nice job. Plus sample in a good bit hot
(clipping). Doesn't work for everything but
sometimes some EQ before sample input helps.
I do really wish you could pitch down farther
than just 1 octave however because I do 2
octaves up into the 950 & it almost never fails
to sound lovely dirty!