Mpc 3000 King Of Mpcs Yes or No and why?

I've never used a sp1200 or mp60 but to me the asr 10 is the best sounding sampler and capable of things no mpc can. Don't know much about the rolands either but i had a 8800 that had some nice punch to it. 3k is the "old school" king of mpcs!!!!!!!!

Is the MPC 3000 king? No fuggin way, all MPC's shine in there own way. The MPC 3000 remains important because of the three S's. Sound, Sequencing & Swing.

Is the MPC 3000 overrated? No fuggin way, sound and swing are very important to some of us in the production game. So much so that we are willing to forfeit the three F's. (work) Flow, Features & Functions.

Although IMO the MPC 3000 sounds the best, I've never had a problem with the sound of other MPC's with exception of the MPC 2000. But conversely I loved the way the 2000 functioned.

To say "anyone who is relying this heavily on the out of the box sound of the converters in their sampler for their entire sound is in need of stepping up their game". Well that statement is undoubtedly true, I just hope your not implying that someone who buys a specific sampler for a specific sound is in someway wrong. Guitarist buy specific guitars, specific pickups, specific pedals and specific strings all the time with the purpose of achieving a specific sound. It does not make that guitarist play any better but at least he's playing the sound that he wants. And playing the sound you want is very inspiring.

I've Owned the MPC 60, MPC 3000, MPC 2000, MPC 1000, EPS Classic, EPS 16+, ASR-88, Emax I and various Akai S samplers. They all have different "sounds" to them. and definitely have different work flows. Over time I've settle in to what I think will from here on be my permanent line up in sampling.

MPC 3000, kept it for the three S's.
S-3000, Bought it for the "sound" of the MPC 3000 & to add the functionality of the MPC 2000, MPC 1000, ect.
Emax I, Bought it strictly for the Sound, 12bit w/ ill filters & it's not the "Akai sound" (hate how it functions though...)

So anyway back to the original question....
Is the MPC 3000 King? I'm gonna say no, but I sure as hell understand why a producer would think so because it's my favorite.

If anyone wants one I am selling a mint maxed 3000 for $1250...PM me if interested.

SCSI, 8 out and maxed ram

I am a 10 year vet of the MPC 2000, and I must say, we are all in this thing together. As MPC users, can we all agree that THERE IS NO SOFTWARE sequencing program that holds a candle to the MPC?? I am currently working with a platinum producer/engineer, and he is TRYING to convince me that I can get the feel I want in software, with protools 7.4/reason4.0 I did try, but back to the MPC I go!!! As far as which one is KING, I think its already been said, the feel of the older 3000 is unmatched. Maybe second would be the 2000, or the 60 (for feel). As far as features go, I guess the 4000 is all there, but thats too much extra CRAP that I don't need. After all, I'm not doing my whole album onthe drum machine. The 1000, to me, seems like a cheap shot at the 2000XL, kinda a Guitar Center gimmick to sweep in tons of newbie producers. Am I right or wrong on the 1000 here?? As far as the 2500, this seems like the most useful machine, or KING OF THE MPC's. I expect it to flow like a 2000XL, and have all the upgrades the 2000XL and 1000 have AND THEN SOME. There shouldn't be a bunch of stuff that I don't need, like the 4000 has. Obviously, I am about to buy one and dive in. They HAVE dropped in price, thanks to Reason 4.0 being so popular (they just don't know bout the MPC, do they!!). So, if anybody can also tell me this, then please do so. Is there a way that a user can access multiple drum programs per sequence, like on the 2000XL, but on an MPC 2000 or MPC 3000? I assume no, but I was wondering if maybe an OS upgrade out there had some funny stuff going on. Anyways, I will crown my 2500 king, any body got a problem with that?? The 3000 is like an Egyptian Pharoah, but not the current HNIC if you ask me. HOLLA

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xabiton wrote:

firework wrote:depends i guess fami, me I would never buy a 4000, just seems overkill the the sample rate is not something i would want, god NO!!!

Iam stuck between a mpc 3000 or a 2000xl --- keep in mind i just got a Akai s950 - so regardless what iam getting, the drums and basslines will be banging out the s950 like seriously. in that way i might get the 2kxl for the wave editing etc.

ive always thought the 4k was overkill myself. most samplers nowadays are tho. hell with things like the mv8k around its only going to get worse.

You can dirty up or alter the sound characteristics of any sound starting from a clean sample. However things get sketchy when the original is already a bit rough and you have machine attaching it's own crud to it. Also, there will come a time when grunge is your enemy and you will need to do more more than spit out lifted riffs and beats from records. For those that do nothing more than chipmunk records that's fine. If you playing instrument samples or you're into shaping your own sound the cleaner samplers win outright.

moyphee wrote:

xabiton wrote:

firework wrote:depends i guess fami, me I would never buy a 4000, just seems overkill the the sample rate is not something i would want, god NO!!!

Iam stuck between a mpc 3000 or a 2000xl --- keep in mind i just got a Akai s950 - so regardless what iam getting, the drums and basslines will be banging out the s950 like seriously. in that way i might get the 2kxl for the wave editing etc.

ive always thought the 4k was overkill myself. most samplers nowadays are tho. hell with things like the mv8k around its only going to get worse.

You can dirty up or alter the sound characteristics of any sound starting from a clean sample. However things get sketchy when the original is already a bit rough and you have machine attaching it's own crud to it. Also, there will come a time when grunge is your enemy and you will need to do more more than spit out lifted riffs and beats from records. For those that do nothing more than chipmunk records that's fine. If you playing instrument samples or you're into shaping your own sound the cleaner samplers win outright.

r people still making chipmunk beats? i like dirty instrument samples too but if I were to make those sorts of samples I think the NNXT in Reason would be the perfect tool for this. Idk I just like the concept of dirty samples lol

MPC 3000 4 LIFE BABY.

monogee wrote:MPC 3000 4 LIFE BABY.

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not really the 300o was a disapointment to me for chopping sold it and dont miss it.

No disrespect to those still using them, but the MPC3000 is an outdated machine. Firstly you're stuck either storing your files on a floppy disk or an obsolete SCSI drive such as a Zip. Then there's it's .snd file format that isn't compatible with the newer machines. Chopping on them is more difficult too.

That said, tracks I did on the MPC3000 when I had one back in the 90s sound a lot better than those I did on the MPC4000 a few years back, which I sold last year. Probably due to the flawed timing in the 4000. So if I had to go back to using either one of them it would be the 3000, simply because the timing is a lot better. But I'm currently using an MPC500 which is tight and has all the features I need, so I'm happy with that. Looking forward to the LinnDrum II though.

tag wrote:basically you can get a dirty sound outta' every mpc. It isn't about the gear you use, more about your skills and records.

the realest words spoken..

Avene wrote:No disrespect to those still using them, but the MPC3000 is an outdated machine. Firstly you're stuck either storing your files on a floppy disk or an obsolete SCSI drive such as a Zip. Then there's it's .snd file format that isn't compatible with the newer machines. Chopping on them is more difficult too.

That said, tracks I did on the MPC3000 when I had one back in the 90s sound a lot better than those I did on the MPC4000 a few years back, which I sold last year. Probably due to the flawed timing in the 4000. So if I had to go back to using either one of them it would be the 3000, simply because the timing is a lot better. But I'm currently using an MPC500 which is tight and has all the features I need, so I'm happy with that. Looking forward to the LinnDrum II though.

Ah what about all the card readers alot of us are using? So your not just stuck to floppies or Zips.

I think on the 4000 note... it did come out over a half a decade ago.

They made a machine with the intent of it being ahead of it's time. Here is my opinion on why:

-RAM, most high end desktops were barely at 512 back in 2002... never mind a computer dedicatd to sampling.

-sound quality, 24/96... that is as high as it gets today in 2008. That was as high as possible back then, so they ran with that expecting that music production was heading into the realm of higher and higher quality. Instead we went in reverse with MP3's being the mainsteam format. The 24/96 is a good feature because then you know you wont have a sound quality bottle neck from your machine (it's bad enough coming from other sources aswell)


Now those of you who are arguing over sound quality etc... you are probably only hearing your beats done in your room on your monitors straight from your mpc, or what ever. Maybe bringing your mpc to your friend's place and listening to it on his monitors. If you are making a finished product, in no way does it end at the mpc. you gotta export that and mix it down, do your final volume leveling, maybe compress it, doctor it up etc. you can say dre used such and such model, but he then put that shit through a several thousand dollar consol and fixed it beyond what the mpc does.

MPC is just a piece of the pie. If all you want to do is the fun stuff, then cool... but making a finished product requires a lot more work then popping pads and all the fun sh!t.

Man I'd kill for a MPC 3000 LE!!! Just beacuse it's an MPC and it looks sick in black... and I have gear lust!

how you end up in this **** up situation? ( momma used to say )
**** wit them boys momma warned you about ( take you time young man )
now them niccas mad and they want their money ( dont you rush the ghetto )
now you in your house trapped and you cant come out......