HELP! , mpc 2500 se, or mv 8800?

lol well i do kind of want the 2500 but

well i kinda do want the mpc but its juts the fact i can't make up my mind cause ill get the mpc but than i don't want to be everyday thinking man what about the mv because it seems so advance lol, does anyone here have both mic and mv and has any feedback about the both of them?

actually, the mv and the mpc both have their strong points and weak points. The thing that will really matter to you most likely is the way the workflow is..

how about this. check out this guy on youtube called overlor
http://www.youtube.com/user/OverlorBeats

he has both the MVs, a few mpc models including the 2500.. the dude uses everything. He uses the new machine on the iphone, he uses the uncommon remix 16 sampler, he uses DAWs... everything. Check his videos out to get an idea of how the mv works and even the mpc to a certain extent.

alright thanks for the video ill check it out now

Seeing Sounds wrote:alright thanks for the video ill check it out now

well i meant the guy's channel.. he has a dozen or two vids

lol yea i know I'm checking it out now

Well, I can't speak on the 2500 except fiddling around with one at the guitar shop. But I was tempted too to cop an 2500SE off Amazon for $1499. I mean, its a white beauty, its got HD and CD recorder and with JJ installed it'll be all I need. But I went with the MV8800 because I know I'll get better effects and a DAW-like sampler, color lcd screen, plus HD and CD recorder.

The only thing to hate about the MV is the load times. If you got a lot of songs and samples and vocal verses in the memory, then you're gonna be waiting at least 3 to 4 minutes after you switch it on to begin work. But you can always export to PC and reduce the stuff on the memory. Other than that, normally load times are like 30 seconds.

The MV is pretty simple to use, once you know where everything is. But don't take my word for it, I've been using Roland since the '90s, so I know their music-lingo. But other people coming from an MPC background will tell you about its steep learning curve.

Its sound goes from clean to lo-fi dirt, but the way I work it, everything comes out grimey.


There you have it, but research and make the right choice because one purchase is all you really need.

@Ill-Green

Lol yea i totally agree with you the mic 2500 is a beauty and I'm thinking about it because of it'll have everything i need like you said but i think i might go with the mv because ill get more features right? and also I'm not coming from an mic background so would it be easier for me to learn rather than someone coming from and mic background because ei am starting up fresh? let me know i found a brand new one with the box and everything for $900

^ either way, you will need to learn the beast..

the mv is packed with features... it is a worthy workhorse that does a lot..

if I only had one piece of gear in my entire arsenal and that was it.. the mv would be that piece simply because it does more in the box.

I admit I like the workflow on the mpc2000(classic or xl) the best even though it has **** all features compared to most other samplers in the mpc or mv series... but I only use that because it's fun.

Oh alright yea i see what you mean, either way ill half to learn one of them. thanks again for the input, and one question with the mpc is it easier to get your ideas up? like it automatically chops up samples right?

well it depends on what you mean by easier... I dont think so though... like, sampling into the mv there are more ways of doing it so depending on what type of thing you are sampling will determine the type of audio recording you would choose (ie: recording a sample vs recording an audio track)

the mpc is a bit more straight forward.. but that is due to less stuff feature wise.


also worth noting is the mv and mpc are different types of samplers.. so the patch/program setup is different. they both do the end result though...

like, for the mpc.. you can assign a sample to a pad and use the 16 levels pitch to do melodies where each pad is in a mode that plays the same sample at different pitches.

the mv can do that but instead you set up a chromatic assignment to the program itself spanning however many keys you want.

just different....



you know what though? if you buy the machine and it doesn't work for you... resell it and try something else. at least those machines sort of retain their value.

Oh alright yea i totally see what you mean that is a good point yea i noticed they retained there value a lot. i think todays the day I'm going to purchase it I'm going to make the decision when i get home from school, thanks again

Yup, Mr. Debauch is right. There's a learning curve with any piece of gear. I think it took me 3 weeks to get familar with my MV. But having some knowledge in samplers really puts the learning curve on the express lane.

What I did to learn the machine was fooling around with the presets and trying to make beats with them. I kept that phonebook.. **cough**.. I mean manual (700+ pages) by my side and read it whenever I wanted to do something. The index really helps, I wanted to delete a track and bam, there it was on page 169. I wanted to know how to sample from a CD from within the MV and beep beep, there it was on page 70. I myself haven't read the manual in its entirety but the index is damn helpful. Matter of fact, download the manual from rolandus.com and just enter keywords in the search to find what you need.

Good luck with your purchase, either one will make you happy. But a MV8800 brand new for $900 is a bargain

yeah my mv 8000 manual is 2 inches thick.. (full 8x11 paper) plus there are a few quick sheets.. or diagrams if you will that explain the layout of the mv components.

I for sure did not read the entire mv manual... but it came in handy anyways. I for sure also recommend getting the PDF version of the manual on the computer if possible.. because that has control+F and search features.

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