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I wouldn't buy.

I don't like the fact you use "us" and "we" when you talk to Akai. Your opinion is not universal.

I want them to keep improving the MPC Renaissance.

Thats because you already bought the ren. lol. You will be the minority if they ever came out with such stated above mpc. But to each there own. enjoy your ren man. No love lost. no matter how much they improve it. Its still nothing like a real mpc.

what you have is an answer to Native instruments maschine, a audio interface dressed up to be an mpc with faulty software. That yes over time could be improved.

Id want them to improve it to if I wasted $1,200 on a midi controller. Good thing I waited for all the " I must have it nows" to buy it first. I''ll try the ren... On black friday when the price is set at a price it should of been launched with. lol !!! not worth it..and even then I'd sell it down the road.

If I were dooped into buying a midi controller with fisher price light up buttons for that price.. Id want them to improve the ren as well.. This thread is not about the REN

This is for hardware heads that want another hardware based mpc that has the capability to intergrate with DAW's. I know 30 plus WORKING producers in the industry with credits including myself that are waiting for this.. so again. I think you'd be the minority in that request my friend. BUT.. to each there own. We all have our own workflow and I respect you for that.

Back on topic..

what would you like to see in a new HARDWARE based mpc.. this thread is not about the Renaissance. If you bought one. Great. enjoy it. I AM speaking for the " We"s who want another hardware based mp that integrates with DAWS. We can discuss REN improvments in a ren improvments thread. Thanks for your time.

Any idea's.

if it were hardware based mpc unit.. then it will fail in comparison to computer specs.. and also you will still have ot rely on that small lcd screen to chop and edit samples..

It sounds more like a wishlist for a Renaissance Mockll

My friend. Not at all. Dont limit these folks. we pay good money for products we use. Make 'em work.

The screen could be fixed easily. Thats the smallest of the issue. I def do NOT want anything like that ren.. thats why I didnt invest one penny on the ren my man. not at all.

More so then doubt'ing I need more people to say what they would want out of this unit. I want an mpc that I could work on and at the end of the day. "IF" i wanted to add some elements from pc land.. I could. first and foremost.. NO AKAI "SOFTWARE" for pc and no "Flashing" fisher price pads. thats just me and a host of others though...

Appreciate the feedback.

I'm quite happy with it nowadays. At 1.3 and 1.4 i still had some reasons to yell but at 1.5, i cannot say the software is faulty. It is stable, has more features than other MPCs hardware and is perfect for making music in studio and i already have a good PC.

I enjoy the MPC workflow like any other MPC Akai made before, i can load plugins, i have 128 tracks to use, no limitation when i sample and no limitation to the library i can load.

I will not talk any shyt about older MPCs. I've owned a 1000 and i was happy with it. But i know what MPC are and what the Ren can do. I find it better than the 1000 i had, and it has infinite potential to go far beyond what the older MPC wouldnt even dream of.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. What's the problem really ? You don't have a PC that can host MPC Software ? Or you wanna be old school because old school is cool ? You think people making music on a PC are kids and you're better than that ?

Why do you bring Maschine into this ? Maschine has a completely different workflow. Did you even try it ?

I have no agressivity toward you and i can see why you don't want to trust akai on the software side after the billions of complaints that rained the first year after MPC Ren release. But What you're saying is already outdated and makes no sense. I'm not saying it is perfect now, it is still missing features to make it a real DAW, but things are getting together over time and you can already use it and no, it will not crash often and it will be as fun as other MPCs if not more.

And even if you wanna be stubborn and hate it forever because the pads are enlighted which proves it is definitely a newbie kidz toy, that's fine, you can wait for a 3000$ MPC 6000 which, by the way, will never have a JJOS release, but in no way i will let you suggest to Akai that they should dump the Ren/Studio/Elements. NO WAY.

mpc60III wrote:Thats because you already bought the ren. lol. You will be the minority if they ever came out with such stated above mpc. But to each there own. enjoy your ren man. No love lost. no matter how much they improve it. Its still nothing like a real mpc.

what you have is an answer to Native instruments maschine, a audio interface dressed up to be an mpc with faulty software. That yes over time could be improved.

Id want them to improve it to if I wasted $1,200 on a midi controller. Good thing I waited for all the " I must have it nows" to buy it first. I''ll try the ren... On black friday when the price is set at a price it should of been launched with. lol !!! not worth it..and even then I'd sell it down the road.

If I were dooped into buying a midi controller with fisher price light up buttons for that price.. Id want them to improve the ren as well.. This thread is not about the REN

This is for hardware heads that want another hardware based mpc that has the capability to intergrate with DAW's. I know 30 plus WORKING producers in the industry with credits including myself that are waiting for this.. so again. I think you'd be the minority in that request my friend. BUT.. to each there own. We all have our own workflow and I respect you for that.

MiniDX wrote: but in no way i will let you suggest to Akai that they should dump the Ren/Studio/Elements. NO WAY.

They WILL dump. But not because of this thread or someone who want a MPC that can work standalone but because of the fact that they will reach a point in 1 or 2 years where they need to create a new controller with new features etc. There will be no updates for the ren and in 5 or 6 years you are unable to use the ren because of compatibilty issues with the PC/Windows outdated protocols whateva.
They don't want to make an instrument that lasts for years and years. This is not the way the market works today. People are stupid enough to buy shit for hundreds of dollars just to buy the same shit again next year. Please tell me its not so. Please show some examples from the "consumer price range" that will last like a Technics SL-1210. Damn this turntable was a product for your whole life.

peace

peterpiper wrote:

MiniDX wrote: but in no way i will let you suggest to Akai that they should dump the Ren/Studio/Elements. NO WAY.

They WILL dump. But not because of this thread or someone who want a MPC that can work standalone but because of the fact that they will reach a point in 1 or 2 years where they need to create a new controller with new features etc. There will be no updates for the ren and in 5 or 6 years you are unable to use the ren because of compatibilty issues with the PC/Windows outdated protocols whateva.
They don't want to make an instrument that lasts for years and years. This is not the way the market works today. People are stupid enough to buy **** for hundreds of dollars just to buy the same **** again next year. Please tell me its not so. Please show some examples from the "consumer price range" that will last like a Technics SL-1210. Damn this turntable was a product for your whole life.

peace

+100

psr wrote:MPC 6000 huh? nice idea. I love my 5000 for what I was able to accomplish on it. After being goine from MPCs (my 2000XL) for a few years it was a nice foot back into MPC world. I initially wanted the 4000 still feel as though, if I find a good price on one I may take the leap.

But as for a dream MPC 6000 I can only imagine Akai killing folks on the price for the simple fact that it would be the new flagship and the highest model number ever. They should do a 3500 or a 4000XL combining all the best things about the 4000 and the 5000 together. then sell a break out box (like Roland did with the MV8000/8800) to gain connectivity to MPC software for use like the REN. I guess nothing about that would be cheap though.

They did make a 3500

how is an mpc that connects to a computer and DAW with ONE single usb cord old school?????? somebody please explain this to me?

HD space in 2014 will NOT be an issue for a unit like this. Are you serious? Heck load it with 1TB they cost like $80 bucks. Thats MORE than enough space.

Try something else before you say this is old school buddy. And My tone is not aggressive my friend. This is friendly dialog. I want to hear your feedback. and appreciate it.

I brought up machine. because you intruded on this thread and brought up the ren heheeh HARDWARE THAT INTERGRATES WITH PC's.

You know how many of my studio buddies got rid of the classic motifs and bought the MX series ?? ALOT !! why? Because they get the same "Classic" motif sound that connects to pc studio set ups SEEMLESSLY and works with DAWS.

THERE IS NOTHING old school about an mpc that could do this...
now back to you..........

I have a feeling if AKAI said WE ARE GOING TO MAKE AN MPC hardware unit of this caliber BUT continue with the REN and updates as welll... you wouldnt have a problem with this then would you my man

I think you have invested time, money and energy into your ren which is okay.

But due to the prices dropping. THAT ren is gonna go bye bye. Sell it now, save a little cash and wait for the next. My advice to you.

I would like them to do both..but I dont think it be cost effective for them. Then ren pretty much crashed and burned because software is NOT there world. So why step into it when they could be just AS successful selling affordable hardware units that work with existing software ? See my point now ?

No they won't.

They're using the same software for 2 products and made it compatible with MPC Elements so i should say 3. It's a whole line of products. Even if they release a new MPC Ren mk2 or use a mpC software 2.0, they will not dump the first mpc renaissance. The core is in the software and it is going to be expanded.

There are examples of 10 years old VST still up, running and supported. Look at the arturia softsynths.

If they dump anything, this is the standalone hardware. Because they know that after you cashed you're never going to cash again, but with a constantly expanded MPC Ren, you're gonna want newer expansions, newer features even if you have to pay 99$ for 2.0, then 3.0, then 4.0 etc.

This is the market.

Anyways if they dump it in 2022 that's ok. I won't feel as bad as those who bought a mpc 5000 for their life, but was never finished.

peterpiper wrote:

MiniDX wrote: but in no way i will let you suggest to Akai that they should dump the Ren/Studio/Elements. NO WAY.

They WILL dump. But not because of this thread or someone who want a MPC that can work standalone but because of the fact that they will reach a point in 1 or 2 years where they need to create a new controller with new features etc. There will be no updates for the ren and in 5 or 6 years you are unable to use the ren because of compatibilty issues with the PC/Windows outdated protocols whateva.
They don't want to make an instrument that lasts for years and years. This is not the way the market works today. People are stupid enough to buy **** for hundreds of dollars just to buy the same **** again next year. Please tell me its not so. Please show some examples from the "consumer price range" that will last like a Technics SL-1210. Damn this turntable was a product for your whole life.

peace

MiniDX wrote:There are examples of 10 years old VST still up, running and supported. Look at the arturia softsynths.

Yeah, I am sure you can find an example of a 10 year old VST still being supported. How about statistics showing how many VSTs in total were available and being supported 10 years ago, and how many of those are still being supported today?

MiniDX wrote:Anyways if they dump it in 2022 that's ok. I won't feel as bad as those who bought a mpc 5000 for their life, but was never finished.

Someone from Akai was ridiculing this sort of discussion previously, and made some comment about it being supported for 10 years at least, or something like that.

Then recently, they seemed to be backing away from that, in the face of criticism from the Element release, they were talking about how they have to sell product to generate revenue to allow continued development.

Reading between the lines, I don't know how realistic your 10 years of ongoing product support dream is.

kontakt 5 was released in what ? 2005?? Is it dead ?

Yeah, you've got me, all VSTs that were available 10 years ago are still being supported today.