Feature difference between the 1000 and the 2500

Bottom line.....an MPC shouldn't break through normal use. Anything that costs hundreds of dollars and breaks is not something I would spend my money on. There really is no way to sugar coat it. I didn't say that MPCs are flawless..but the 1000 is the worst built MPC ever made.

The last thing to go on the MPC 2000 is its pads. Selling used MPC 2000s use to be my bread and butter. The cursor keys, number keys, and the LCD, are the things that usually have problems first...not the pads. I had MPC 2000s that were 6 years old and abused...and their pads were still better than a new MPC 1000.

To answer your question directly...no. I have never looked inside an MPC 1000.

As far as software issues..every MPC had software issues upon their initial release. The 2500 has had 1 OS update which had over a few dozen fixes as well as a few enhancements.

I know its a touchy subject to MPC 1000 users. But if you want a new MPC, I would save a few dollars and pick up a 2500 before considering a 1000.

Antonym wrote:however, someone should get into the 2500's chop shop, because i think that's one of the biggest +s of that machine over the 1000 besides size and initial pad quality.

Doesn't mpc 1000 have chop shop in the new OS 2.1?

No

Is there some feature similar to chop shop in mpc 1000?

karemil - yes. slice.

I know its a touchy subject to MPC 1000 users. But if you want a new MPC, I would save a few dollars and pick up a 2500 before considering a 1000.

it's not gonna make your music any better. jahrome, i honestly think you don't know enough about the 1000 to make that claim.

if you are undecided between the 2500 and the 1000, try and wait until new features come for the 2500, which they undoubtedly will. as of now, though, the price of the 2500 doesn't justify the purchase to me, superior pad quality or not.

however, an updated os w/ new features would.

may be a poor place to do this, but i just finished an album using the mpc 1000, it's available for free here.

http://www.excommence.com

Antonym wrote:
it's not gonna make your music any better. jahrome, i honestly think you don't know enough about the 1000 to make that claim.

if you are undecided between the 2500 and the 1000, try and wait until new features come for the 2500, which they undoubtedly will. as of now, though, the price of the 2500 doesn't justify the purchase to me, superior pad quality or not.

however, an updated os w/ new features would.

may be a poor place to do this, but i just finished an album using the mpc 1000, it's available for free here.

Correct me if I am wrong...every function that the MPC 1000 has is inlcuded in the 2500...no?
So what is there to know?

Whether an MPC 2500 will make better music than the 1000 is not the point nor was it implied or talked about. That would be silly.

Chop Shop, recordable track mutes and mute groups, CDRW burning of audio CD files, adjustable LCD, 4 more audio outs (all outputs balanced), 2 more MIDI outs (32 more MIDI channels), 2 more Q-link knobs, real MPC drum pads, better USB connectivity, in-track sampling, continuous audio track, grid edit, ability to stop long samples during playing, and the ability to edit samples during playing of sequences are features that the 2500 has that I believe are not included in the MPC 1000 today. Please correct me if I am wrong. These are among things that do justify the extra money you would pay for a 2500. I do admit every doesn't need an MPC 2500 or even an MPC 4000. But I am mos def loving the added functions of the latest MPC over the previous mainstays.

I am not trying to sell you on the 2500 because you already want one. Eventually, you will most likely pick up one..and just have the 1000 as a keepsake.

Now, I am curious to know of what the MPC 2500 needs in order for you to justify its purchase other than a full blown Z series sampler....

what are the better usb functions? curious, cuz that's something that could def be expanded on the 1000.

i'm not saying those aren't great assets to the 2500, some of those really kick ass for workflow. i'm just saying they don't justify the price - yet. add a couple more, and they will. i have a feeling that the mpc2500 is gonna be around for a WHILE as akai's most marketed mpc.

i'd also like to take the opportunity to say that the mpc1000 was overpriced before os 2.1. now, it's just barely reasonable. they were completely raping us on price before - but eh, who cares, you do what you can, right?

i think the 2500 is for now still in that transitional period where it's not worth it yet but shows serious promise. however, at this point, i don't know if i'll have the need to get a 2500 unless something bad happens to my 1000 - OR, unless my budget allows me to have both, which would be incredible. however, this won't happen for a long while, in either case.

if only akai would just bite the bullet and implement the 2500 software on the 1000 so as to preserve portability...they totally could do it but never will, unfortunately...portability is more important to me than the 2500 features as of now.

in other news, i'm designing a midi controller out of a mangled mpd16......more on that later.

well, better pads and outputs is a biggie.

Could improve midi timing to multiple racks. Saves time at mixdown (almost 50%). Saves time in editing, better pads mean more accurate drums.

Build quality for me is most apparent in the data wheel, which feels cheap on the MPC 1k and decent on other MPC's.

Worth $800? Depends what you need that 800$ for. But, the 2500 is pretty clearly a better MPC.

yea, but it seems more like $1000 more than an mpc1000? I just don't get the price difference.

it doesn't look like there's significantly more dedicated buttons either? still the same pain in the ass to edit as the 1000?

3001 wrote:
yea, but it seems more like $1000 more than an mpc1000? I just don't get the price difference.

it doesn't look like there's significantly more dedicated buttons either? still the same pain in the ass to edit as the 1000?

$1000 more if the price of the MPC 1000 is $600.....

I know you are hoping for the downfall of the latest and greatest MPC but good gosh Its clearly a better model. For those that can't afford the better model just yet (or don't need the extra hardware/functions)..cop the 1000 and be happy. But nothing....nothing will change the fact that the MPC 1000 is a cute little baby....

And while you are hear talking about the MPC 2500/1000 are a pain in the azz editing....why are you in other threads hyping the MPC 3000/60 where editing is practically non-existant

the mpc4000 is better than the 2500...

the thing is buggy the 2500 innit?

the avg price of an mpc2500 is $2000
the avg price of an mpc1000 is $1000

do the math, 2000-1000=1000!

Depends where you are though. It seems like for once in god knows how many years, us people in the UK are getting a better deal.

The 2500 is only about £200 more than a 1000bk, that's about $375.

I'm 100% glad i went for the 2500 after playing on both, it's gonna be the mainstay of my studio for years to come.

I'm pretty certain that if i had bought a 1000, i would have wanted to upgrade as soon as i had the cash.

I'm probably going to buy a 2500 over the 1000 for some of the cool features, grid edit and chop shop seem real cool, and the full sized+swivel screen.

have to sell my mpc60 and akai s6000(better than the 2500 together), but need something portable, i think 2500 will fit that job well. i know i'll love the 60 +s6000 much more, but, they're not good for live like the 2500 is:x

i was pondering teh 1000, but the 2500 does look better. the only thing that's throwing me off is the prices. need to find a cheap ass one:-) and a replacement cd drive.

The MPC 4000 packs a more powerful sampler and has a sequencer that has a higher resolution. But is it better? Let say yes for this argument and keep the few MPC 4000 users happy But I like the feel and workflow of the 2500. And if they were both the same price...I would pick the 2500 anyday of the week.

Yes, the S5000/6000 are full featured samplers...but the Z series that replaced them are even more powerful. The funny thing is..they were once thousands and now only a few hundred bucks If I need another full featured sampler...I would go for GigaSampler..hands down. I will never buy another hardware sampler that isn't an MPC unless it was packaged as a sampler/sound module/workstation.

So you are going to update your dinosaur...nothing wrong with that. It won't be as expensive as you think. Have VST Service and Alto Music compete for your dollars and you may be able to secure one for $1600-$1700. If the market is right and you are real lucky...you may be able to get at least $1000 for your MPC 60 and S6000. I just stripped down my S6000 and sold it in pieces for a grand total of $650...

Forget about looking better.....get to your local GC and try the 2500 and the 1000 before spending your loot.

nah i'm not updating. the mpc60+s6000 destroys the 2500. but not very easy to tote around for live usage...