Mpc 3000 King Of Mpcs Yes or No and why?

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Re: Mpc 3000 King Of Mpcs Yes or No and why?

By mr_debauch Thu May 12, 2011 3:46 am
krush777 wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:
krush777 wrote:P.S I really do want to buy an MPC 3000!!!



:lol: I was just thinking the same exact thing while reading your post.


I am curious / gear lusting about the MV-8800 also, of which I know you use also. I just scored a mint VS2400CD which I am gonna replace my Tascam 2488 with. So, of course the MV has come up.


yeah, well the thing is... I like bouncing from gear to gear... I make music differently sometimes that way. I only ever sold one mpc which I regretted which was the 2000xl... but I came up on a classic 2000 which was a gamble. The seller didn't have the boot disk so he thought there was something wrong with it. I payed $250 including shipping for it... anyways, I got it because I saw it had the 8 outputs so I figured worse comes to worse I could strip the machine and make my money back if not break a profit.

anyways so the machine comes in... I had an eb16 laying around I took from my XL before letting it go... I figured I would pop that in the classic if it worked... well I made a boot disk and powered her on... the thing is in amazing shape, it works perfect... screen is mint, the thing already had the eb16 in it so now I have 2... plus everything works. My guess is that they couldn't get the thing booted up without the disk so it was left in a box for years. there aint even any normal usage dirt on the jog wheel or pads.

still, one day I will have to bite the bullet and get a 3000... I already have a 60 which I always use but it has the old OS... so instead of paying several hundred on upgrading that I might as well grab a 3000 since the newest 60 OS is supposed to give it 3000 style features.

It's that machine I always would have liked having, but I never find one in budget when I am in the market for one...
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By godxbOmb Mon May 19, 2014 6:27 am
mindcontrol wrote:
tag wrote:basically you can get a dirty sound outta' every mpc. It isn't about the gear you use, more about your skills and records.


the realest words spoken..


I've been sampling wav files from my audio interface today with the MPC60 and it sounds pretty dirty.. :mrgreen:
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Re: Mpc 3000 King Of Mpcs Yes or No and why?

By godxbOmb Mon May 19, 2014 6:37 am
Every piece of gear has vibe. If the 3000 gives you that vibe then use it. If tape gives that vibe and you can make it happen, do it. If the mpc 5000 works for your music...use it.

If it's any good you can always sell it off if you don't like it. 8)

Re: Mpc 3000 King Of Mpcs Yes or No and why?

By groovemonger Thu May 29, 2014 5:56 pm
In terms of workflow I like the 2000xl and, even better, the 2500 - both are kinda 'meat and potatoes'. They just do what I want from an MPC.

Never used the 60 or the 3000 for more than a play around so can't really comment on whether those sound special enough to warrant using them over more modern models.

I will say for a fact thought that good hardware in general does punch and pump more than all-in-the-box DAW-made music. When I put modules through my little junky analogue 8/2 mixer and my monitors it sounds much more alive than DAW music played through a really good audio interface - it's like the difference between listening to MP3 vs. vinyl on a good system.
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Re: Mpc 3000 King Of Mpcs Yes or No and why?

By godxbOmb Thu May 29, 2014 6:12 pm
All I've ever owned: 2000xl, 1000, 500, 60II.

My perception is: The 1000 & 500 sounded darker than the 2000xl , which is the brightest sounding one to my ears. To me it's like the 60 has some permanent EQ preset that makes it sound sort of unique (and I like it :mrgreen: ).

If the 3000 also has a similar effect via D/A and/or output circuitry, I could see that being a main factor in it's positive reputation.

Re: MPC-3000 King Of MPCs: Yes or No and why?

By JVC Thu May 29, 2014 6:47 pm
I've never owned MPC-3000, but to me, MPC-3000 and also MPC-60 look like they are in a different class. I don't know why, but there's something about MPC-3000, that other newer MPC don't have. Maybe because MPC-3000 carries a lot of music history with it.
To me, MPC-3000 is the best looking MPC ever made. It would look just great in your studio!

MPC-2000XL is also a great machine with a lot of music history, but it doesn't have charactor like 3000. But probably I wouldn't like using MPC-3000, because of poor data storage support (32MB per sector and no IDE port, no file directory), but it has dedicated function keys, I always wish that 2000XL had.

Re: Mpc 3000 King Of Mpcs Yes or No and why?

By Clint Fri May 30, 2014 11:06 pm
Which discontinued model was brought back from the dead in the 21st century, when the MPC2000 and MPC2000XL were already huge sellers?

In fact I now have an MPC3000LE that was built in 2001, one of the last ones.

Re: MPC-3000 King Of MPCs: Yes or No and why?

By Clint Fri May 30, 2014 11:34 pm
JVC wrote:I I wouldn't like using MPC-3000, because of poor data storage support (32MB per sector and no IDE port, no file directory)...


Poor data storage? SCSI port as standard = Win.
No slow IDE port? Fast SCSI port as standard = Win,
No file directory? SCSI partitions are effectively 'folders' = Win.

The machine itself will inspire you, due to its heritage, its history, its TRACK RECORD (excuse the pun), its legacy.

To own one, is to love one.
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By Lampdog Sat May 31, 2014 1:20 am
KkonEl wrote:best features=4ooo
best sound=3ooo or 6o

Re: MPC-3000 King Of MPCs: Yes or No and why?

By JVC Sat May 31, 2014 3:00 am
Clint wrote:
JVC wrote:I I wouldn't like using MPC-3000, because of poor data storage support (32MB per sector and no IDE port, no file directory)...


Poor data storage? SCSI port as standard = Win.
No slow IDE port? Fast SCSI port as standard = Win,
No file directory? SCSI partitions are effectively 'folders' = Win.

The machine itself will inspire you, due to its heritage, its history, its TRACK RECORD (excuse the pun), its legacy. To own one, is to love one.

I do see your point, MPC-3000 looks always gorgeous to me, probably I would love the machine once I use it, but there is no denying that I would not like the data storage situation.
Let's face it, SCSI device is cumbersome, and expensive (I'm familiar with SCSI devices, I used to use SCSI devices with Mac back in the days.)
But I'd say that MPC-3000LE is the Cadillac of MPC.
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Re: MPC-3000 King Of MPCs: Yes or No and why?

By sirparksalot Sat May 31, 2014 9:47 pm
JVC wrote:But I'd say that MPC-3000LE is the Cadillac of MPC.


I definitely think that just as far as comfort goes, I like the 3000 more than my 4000. That includes build quality, sturdiness, etc. But.....when I'm working on the 3000 I miss a lot of features that my 4k has. 4000 will always be the ultimate MPC to me unless something with all the features and more comes out that is as reliable as the 4000. There are certain samples that might not need as much chopping or whatever that I really like to work with on the 3000 just because of how simple it is and how it's pretty much just overdubbing. If I have a crazy sample with a lot of chops or somethin I always reach for my 4000. I think it's all in what you get used to....I already had my 4000 when I finally found a 3000 for a decent price and scooped it up.

With that said, if I was stuck on a desert island with a room of records and just making beats and not worried about anything else, I would probably want the 3000 by my side. People say the 4000 is built well.....IMO it's not built near as well as the 3000. The slightly smaller foot print is nice as well.

Re: MPC-3000 King Of MPCs: Yes or No and why?

By Clint Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:45 pm
JVC wrote:I would love the machine once I use it, but there is no denying that I would not like the data storage situation. Let's face it, SCSI device is cumbersome, and expensive


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It is possible you're actually overthinking the storage situation.

Card-readers and zip drives are widely used, for different reasons, cost or reliability.

Dont think "SCSI", think "Card-reader".

It's not expensive for a 20 year upgrade from floppy to a CF reader. I prefer the external CF readers myself as it allows me to use it with different machines/samplers. With an internal the CF is physically attached to one machine, not helpful if you have 3 or 4 samplers with SCSI ports.

Re: MPC-3000 King Of MPCs: Yes or No and why?

By JVC Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:56 am
Clint wrote:...
It is possible you're actually overthinking the storage situation.
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Dont think "SCSI", think "Card-reader".

It's not expensive for a 20 year upgrade from floppy to a CF reader. I prefer the external CF readers myself as it allows me to use it with different machines/samplers. With an internal the CF is physically attached to one machine, not helpful if you have 3 or 4 samplers with SCSI ports.

Umm, it still has to be a SCSI CF card reader, which is very hard to find, and expensive if you can even find it...
Compare to Kurzweil K2000, (which came out on 1991, came out a few years earlier than MPC-3000) data storage function MPC-3000 was a bit behind, I think.
I can agree with that MPC-3000 is the king of MPCs (or Cadillac of MPCs), but 3000's data handling capability is not really great.

Re: MPC-3000 King Of MPCs: Yes or No and why?

By Clint Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:25 pm
JVC wrote:Umm, it still has to be a SCSI CF card reader, which is very hard to find.


Wrong, totally.

You are missing the point completely.

We are talking about a classic 90's sampler with a SCSI port as standard, this was top spec at the time. SCSI was an option on 99% of MPC60's.

Today there are several options for storage on the MPC3000. I think you need to do your homework in the MPC3000 forum. You do not need a scsi card reader!

Re: MPC-3000 King Of MPCs: Yes or No and why?

By JVC Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:13 pm
Clint wrote:
JVC wrote:Umm, it still has to be a SCSI CF card reader, which is very hard to find.


Wrong, totally.

You are missing the point completely.

We are talking about a classic 90's sampler with a SCSI port as standard, this was top spec at the time. SCSI was an option on 99% of MPC60's.

Today there are several options for storage on the MPC3000. I think you need to do your homework in the MPC3000 forum. You do not need a scsi card reader!

OK.
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