3000 VS 2000

tresperros wrote:yeah...
mate is corny and he writes bulls@@@t either.....
Try to understand at last, or wash your ears, or don't smoke dope..
there's no audible sonic differences between MPCs (16/44.1)
sampler is f@@@ sampler, what you sample is what you get....
those 'differences' exist only in snobs' heads...

All believers - try blind test.....

ciao

So your saying that every sampler at 16/44.1 is the same your fackin high man!? How many MPC's or Any Samplers for that matter have you owned to know this?

I've never had for my own 2000, but my mate got, so I spend a lot of time playin' and testing that machine..
I had 60mkI, XL, and 2500;)
now I got 3kLE and 1k with JJOS...
and I miss 60mkI as hell - and I think thats the BEST MPC ever made..
I never played with 4000 longer then few hours at studio, and I was f@@@@ confused, ...menus, submenus...
but 24/96 (Z8 engine) sound def. better


bless matey;)

tresperros wrote:I've never had for my own 2000, but my mate got, so I spend a lot of time playin' and testing that machine..
I had 60mkI, XL, and 2500;)
now I got 3kLE and 1k with JJOS...
and I miss 60mkI as hell - and I think thats the BEST MPC ever made..
I never played with 4000 longer then few hours at studio, and I was f@@@@ confused, ...menus, submenus...
but 24/96 (Z8 engine) sound def. better


bless matey;)

I think the 4000 is a dope machine. I have had 3 3000's and I still think the 4000 is like a updated 3000. The 4000 has resample capabilities to make your shit sound like 8 or 12 bit with a 24 bit 96khz clarity over the top of your beat. The Aksys. Program seems to be pretty dope too. I def think the MPC60 MK1 & 3000's are probably one of the best built machines still to this day.

i have owned both the 2000 and now a 3000, sound of 3K is far better as most will agree, but alot of people don't notice the sequencing differences.

There are very different when it comes down to this part, on the 2K you are able to use the shift, along with the, swing at the same time.
for example you can shift later 21 steps and the add up 75% swing. you can't do this on the 3K as it will automatically drop your shift steps.

Along with this difference there is also an issue with the dropping of notes when you do a particular kind of beat that is focused on swing, on the 2K it can often drop the last notes of a bar just before it loops. the 3K will not do this to your beat. IMO 3K feels alot stronger.

tresperros wrote:yeah...
mate is corny and he writes bulls@@@t either.....
Try to understand at last, or wash your ears, or don't smoke dope..
there's no audible sonic differences between MPCs (16/44.1)
sampler is f@@@ sampler, what you sample is what you get....
those 'differences' exist only in snobs' heads...

All believers - try blind test.....

ciao

you have never heard of audio converters ?,

they cost a lot of money and bad ones drop the price of the machine along with its ability the record the complete frequency range, which by the way not many things can capture well. This is why you can buy a Mic pre for $25 and a Neve pre for $2500, any professional will tell which is the best.

P.S> that is a technical fact of any hardware

pre is a pre, a/d conv is a different device....
you can have a decent quality with rme interfaces, or apogee(bit priced)..
but then you got high-end like prism or miriam...which costs more than whole soundsystem of average mate from this forum...
just my 2 pennies;)

bless

True mic pre is a different thing but its an example based on the standard of components, which along with the workmanship determines the quality of any product.

All hardware samplers have A/D converters in them just like sound-cards. The quality of that converter determines the sound of the sampler, both A/D and D/A.