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By mrbeats Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:33 pm
Hi everyone this is probably a slightly different question and request for information.
Although I use a computer for music from time to time I just hate it.
I grew up on hardware sequencers like the Roland MC 5O KORG SQ8 Yamaha QY'S Alesis MMT8.
I like to hear my music not look at it although mixing in the box from a budget point of view is a totally different ball game.

Anyway I am looking for a nice hardware sequencer for sequencing my synths and for live use.
I like workstations and tend to just get more creative ideas down when working that way.
However over the years I have always felt workstation sequencers to have a bolted on feel to them.
I don't think I need anything as powerful as the 5000 as IM just after sequencer use not all the sampling bells and whistles.
Any tips on what to look out for and consider from different MPC users across the board would be very helpful if you guys would be so kind to share your views.

Thanks.
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By dabmeister Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:27 pm
This is just a few words of wisdom...

Don't sell yourself short and all sequencers aren't created equal.

Personally, knowing what I know now, I would go for the one that would give me the best resolution. That way when I need to move a few notes around to where I want them (and not have the seq dictate it for me), I can fulfill the vision I originally started out with.
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By ion Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:11 pm
could look for an ASQ 10 if you dont sample and use pads

its a mpc 60 sequencer


but as dabmeister said, you somewhat accept a certain dictation in matters of let me call it MACRO timing 8)
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By Lampdog Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:14 am
What does it tell you in the 5k manual?

In the back, sequencer specs?
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By kneebone77 Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:54 am
I pretty much based my MPC decision on the sequencer although I did want sampling also. First it was narrowed down to the 3k and the 4k. I opted for the 3k and plan to upgrade it with Rohan Mansell's Vailixi Operating System which adds quite a few lovely additions to the sequencer as well as the sampler section and user interface.
http://www.mansell-labs.com

IMO the 3k or 4k would be your best bet. But at the end of the day an MPC is an MPC and any of them will ultimately do the trick...
By mrbeats Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:52 pm
Lampdog wrote:What does it tell you in the 5k manual?

In the back, sequencer specs?


Is this your idea of being helpful or should I laugh now or later as it must be your idea of stand up ?

I've tried downloading the manual but for some reason its not happening.
If you own a 5K you could have just as quickly gave me a heads up but no you thought you would be a wise guy instead.
Perhaps you should understand there is a reason for everything.
Like when you thought ''why don't the guy just read the manual''
By Clint Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:14 am
mrbeats wrote:
Lampdog wrote:What does it tell you in the 5k manual?

In the back, sequencer specs?


Is this your idea of being helpful or should I laugh now ?


On a forum like this you don't only get ANSWERS, sometimes you will get QUESTIONS.

Like did you try to Google it?

http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/article/1 ... chart.html

The MPC4000 is officialy discontinued, but I understand the sequencer resoulution specs are shared with the MPC5000.
By mrbeats Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:12 am
Thanks for the link very helpful.

I can appreciate getting questions but not when its borderline insulting.
This like any other forum is for sharing information not just telling people to go get the manual or use google.
Otherwise what's the point of having a MPC online community?
God forbid I was going to ask about the difference between effect specs on the 1000 and 2500 but I wont bother now.
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By kneebone77 Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:49 am
mrbeats wrote:Thanks for the link very helpful.

I can appreciate getting questions but not when its borderline insulting.
This like any other forum is for sharing information not just telling people to go get the manual or use google.
Otherwise what's the point of having a MPC online community?
God forbid I was going to ask about the difference between effect specs on the 1000 and 2500 but I wont bother now.


Folk's here don't like to repetitiously give out information that people could readily research for themselves...
Folk's here tend to help those who help themselves.
Directing to a manual is a form of help.
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By mrbeats Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:22 pm
Yes and no.

Directing someone to the manual in a pleasant way is helpfull.
For example ''hey man to get the full low down did you know Akai let you check out the manual''
''You can download it from their site''
But the guy knew the answer anyway!

And what's most annoying is that what I asked about the sequencer anyone with an MPC will know.
It is exactly what I thought it was 96.
So you guys could have just confirmed instead of being akward.
If this is your attitudes towards people then all your going to do is put new MPC buyers off the MPC which ultimately kills your own community.
Jeez and you have the cheek to slate MV Nation on this site.

I did try to help myself I went to download the manual and It was not available at the time!
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By dabmeister Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:38 pm
So mrbeats, I see you've confirmed that there's a big difference in 96 vs. 960 ppqn. I'm not saying that you can't be creative with a 96 ppqn sequencer (hell, I did it for years and composed some of my best work), but just sharing some of what I've experienced through my musical adventures.

Personally, I don't think there's any need to get worked up about anything. Folks around here are trying to get you to incorporate a new method of self reliance.

Take it for what it's worth.
By markmorgan10 Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:09 pm
I wouldn't go dismissing the 1000/2500 models out of hand at all. Yes, in an ideal world I'd say a 4000 is your best bet - but I'd have a look at eBay 1st to see what kind of money they go for. These boxes are not cheap.

While there's still a bit of debate over it, the 5000 (official flagship) model may be discontinued before long. While opinions will of course differ, the general consensus here would appear to be that if a 5000 and 4000 were to drop from the sky at the same time, folks here would catch the 4000.

If you're looking for a solid sequencer - I believe you can honestly get by on anything from an mpc 500 up - but bear in mind that workflow may not be how you'd like it. Like the 5000 model, the mpc 500 runs AKAI's O.S, which is considered far inferior to the 'JJOS' product available on the 1000 and 2500 models.

As a 'pure' sequencer - I'd suggest that an mpc 4000 may be a bit expensive for what you're looking for - but if you can afford it - then do it !

Mark.
By mrbeats Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:36 am
Personally, I don't think there's any need to get worked up about anything. Folks around here are trying to get you to incorporate a new method of self reliance.

Take it for what it's worth.[/quote]

Its nowt to do with self reliance as already explained through using google ect.
If anyone wants to learn about my idea of self reliance they are welcome to cut the crap and join me on one of my bushmaster courses and see where reading the manual and searching google gets their hungry cold ass in my world.

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By mrbeats Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:39 am
markmorgan10 wrote:I wouldn't go dismissing the 1000/2500 models out of hand at all. Yes, in an ideal world I'd say a 4000 is your best bet - but I'd have a look at eBay 1st to see what kind of money they go for. These boxes are not cheap.

While there's still a bit of debate over it, the 5000 (official flagship) model may be discontinued before long. While opinions will of course differ, the general consensus here would appear to be that if a 5000 and 4000 were to drop from the sky at the same time, folks here would catch the 4000.

If you're looking for a solid sequencer - I believe you can honestly get by on anything from an mpc 500 up - but bear in mind that workflow may not be how you'd like it. Like the 5000 model, the mpc 500 runs AKAI's O.S, which is considered far inferior to the 'JJOS' product available on the 1000 and 2500 models.

As a 'pure' sequencer - I'd suggest that an mpc 4000 may be a bit expensive for what you're looking for - but if you can afford it - then do it !

Mark.


Thanks Mark I think if I can find a 4000 I will go for it otherwise it will be a 1000 as it don't seem any different to the 2500.