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By Oldskull Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:44 am
Hello everyone. I have my own mpc 1000, and i'm quite happy with it. But my friend offered me an akai mpc 3000. Is it worth changing from very functional mpc 1000, that i can easily hook up to my pc, and drag n drop samples to mpc 3000, that will be (i guess) not so comfortable for me, when i was force to habit with the simpleness of mine mpc 1000 ? I'm in love with mpc 3000, but dont want to downgrade my setup. What's your advice?
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By mr_debauch Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:17 am
Oldskull wrote:Hello everyone. I have my own mpc 1000, and i'm quite happy with it. But my friend offered me an akai mpc 3000. Is it worth changing from very functional mpc 1000, that i can easily hook up to my pc, and drag n drop samples to mpc 3000, that will be (i guess) not so comfortable for me, when i was force to habit with the simpleness of mine mpc 1000 ? I'm in love with mpc 3000, but dont want to downgrade my setup. What's your advice?



if it's a straight trade.. and the 3000 works perfect and is in good shape... why wouldn't you do it? that's like someone asking you to trade your $600-750 for their $1000-$1350...

I would do it in a second, and then just get a new 1000 or something.
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By fasttrackpimp Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:48 am
I've actually been debating this very same thing. I have a 1k, but can sell/trade it for a 3k too. 3k looks decent and I've wanted one ever since I tried one back in the day, but money was the only reason it didn't happen. But that was 2000 and this is now 2010, so I'm not sure if I should now. I know the 1k has more features, but I'm not using hardly any of them cause I really don't need them. I came from the 2k classic so using the 3k shouldn't be such a huge change in workflow from what I'm used to(atleast from what the 3k manual is looking like). When I bought the 1k(3 months ago) I was stuck between the 3k and 1k, but went with the 1k to try and see if I would like it and because it seemed like a more logical choice in 2010, but I kind of miss the workflow and sound on those older mpc's. Yes, I have researched both heavily, but I'm still in a stalemate. So any suggestions are welcome and just buying the 3k and keeping the 1k isn't an option.

To answer the og question transferring sounds isn't that hard at all. Get a usb zip drive/scsi zip drive(if you must use zips :? ) or better yet a usb cardreader/scsi cardreader, on mac get mpcpgm maker, on pc get mpc editor. Then just format a zip disk or cf card with the 3k, put that formated zip disk or cf card in your usb drive, then drag your sounds off your computer into either of those apps(mpcpgm maker or mpc editor) and it'll make those sounds and pgm compatible with the 3k. Then just drop those new snd and pgm files on your zip disk or cf card and load them up in the 3k. Still not as easy or fast as the 1k and usb, but not that difficult.
By Sovereign Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:45 pm
Get it.
If you can hype yourself up enough you will keep it but more than likely it will make you long for a 1k on a larger frame so you'll switch to a 2500 w/JJ.

The problem with the 60 or 3k when coming from the newer MP's is it is really dependent on how you have nested yourself in the features.

They have a very acceptable workflow but you will constantly see what you use to be able to do in comparison.
If you can let this go and get hyped about the sound then you can make the transition.
If not then you will either add gear to the older MP or pickup a more modern unit.

The big thing about MP choices is that for those of us who have been around we see things differently.
We started with the 60 so we knew why the 3k was better.
We had the 3k so we saw the advantages of the 2k then the improvements the 2kxl made.
We knew why the 4k was so incredible and so on and so on.

Now since all these MP's are available to choose from it makes the lines harder to distinquish.

there is no such thing as a bad MP, unless you simply choose one that doesn't meet your needs or have the desired feature set.
By dryad-66 Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:06 pm
Sovereign wrote:Get it.
If you can hype yourself up enough you will keep it but more than likely it will make you long for a 1k on a larger frame so you'll switch to a 2500 w/JJ.

The problem with the 60 or 3k when coming from the newer MP's is it is really dependent on how you have nested yourself in the features.

They have a very acceptable workflow but you will constantly see what you use to be able to do in comparison.
If you can let this go and get hyped about the sound then you can make the transition.
If not then you will either add gear to the older MP or pickup a more modern unit.

The big thing about MP choices is that for those of us who have been around we see things differently.
We started with the 60 so we knew why the 3k was better.
We had the 3k so we saw the advantages of the 2k then the improvements the 2kxl made.
We knew why the 4k was so incredible and so on and so on.

Now since all these MP's are available to choose from it makes the lines harder to distinquish.

there is no such thing as a bad MP, unless you simply choose one that doesn't meet your needs or have the desired feature set.
If you love the sound of akais,get the 3000.deep strong full tone.thats whats up.(and ive never had one :roll: )
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By mr_debauch Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:12 pm
dryad-66 wrote:
Sovereign wrote:Get it.
If you can hype yourself up enough you will keep it but more than likely it will make you long for a 1k on a larger frame so you'll switch to a 2500 w/JJ.

The problem with the 60 or 3k when coming from the newer MP's is it is really dependent on how you have nested yourself in the features.

They have a very acceptable workflow but you will constantly see what you use to be able to do in comparison.
If you can let this go and get hyped about the sound then you can make the transition.
If not then you will either add gear to the older MP or pickup a more modern unit.

The big thing about MP choices is that for those of us who have been around we see things differently.
We started with the 60 so we knew why the 3k was better.
We had the 3k so we saw the advantages of the 2k then the improvements the 2kxl made.
We knew why the 4k was so incredible and so on and so on.

Now since all these MP's are available to choose from it makes the lines harder to distinquish.

there is no such thing as a bad MP, unless you simply choose one that doesn't meet your needs or have the desired feature set.
If you love the sound of akais, you'll love the sound of the sp1200


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By codybusch Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:32 pm
I ran into this same ordeal a year ago and I traded my 1000 with JJOS for a 3000. Since then I haven't looked back once, I didn't even have a dream about the little guy. You'll learn to get the most out of what you have and you'll listen to the sounds more than looking at them. You'll also Love the filter on the 3 much more than the one on the 1, or at least I do. The downside besides computer transfer is that there is only a delay for an effect and there is no compression or equalizer. If your really serious though you can find cheap outboard eq's and compressors to use on the eight outputs on the 3. If you do decide to trade don't consider it as a downgrade because then you'll be dreaming about the 1000 every day and how you miss samples cutting each other off in mono and how easy it is to chop samples and all the effects etc etc. If I were you I would go on with the trade but if you use mostly computer samples and not much from vinyl then stick with the 1. It's a great mp but the 3000 is thick in sound and if you got time you can put a compact flash card in the place of your floppy drive. Whatever you choose though just make sure it's what makes you the happiest.
By klassik.one Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:06 am
sold my 2kxl. bought a 60. havent looked back since. chopping does take more time but every chop is on point since your listening to it instead of chopping by your eyes. alot of times when im chopping samples or w.e. i find parts i would of never expected to have used but because i cant exactly see what im doing you sorta stumble upon those other sections. in a sense ur a little more creative with the machine. less shift this open window that f4 that turn data wheel to the left to select this. the layout doesnt get any simpler in my opinion. if you can use a microwave u can use a 60/3000. but then again i dont use a computer in the beat making process. wax on wax off. haha. peace

oh and for resale value ur making loot. juuuust saying.
By Oldskull Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:47 pm
I really don't know, what to do. The mpc 3000 is just lovely cool and that should be the real mpc. But im a lil bit stressed, to switch myself from the new one to that old one. I'm using some effects. Mainly 4 band eq and a compressor. Especially for my drums. I don't chop mainly on mpc, because it takes time and it's not so precise like in sony sound forge (which i use to chop samples and tracks). Usually i'm sampling down from digital sources and chop the samples in sony sound forge. When it comes to sample a vinyl, i just record it to sony sound forge and then cut the sample. All of them i'm converting to .wav files and drag n drop to my memory card on mpc.
I can tell, that i'm not feeling my mpc 1000. I like it, but not love it. When im looking on the mpc 3000 i feel that something. Something tells me, that i will be very happy with this machine. I like the oldschool aspects of the mpc 3000. I like, when a machine is big, build like a tank n shit. But really don't want to get an headache with this low ram and without build in usb to pc port or internal card reader.
I have a few questions, that should made my decision for an mpc 3000 user:

1. Does mpc 3000 read .wav files?
2. Can i put an internal Compact Flash card reader or a hard drive in it?
3. Is there an option in mpc 3000 to chop automatically the sample, to fit the 16 pads?
4. Are there in mpc 3000 keys, which i can switch in the samples bank quickly ?
5. Is there an option like : "Pitch shift", "Time stretch" etc.?
6. Is there a chance to convert my program files, samples, sequences and shit to fit the mpc 3000 ? (I don't want to lose my beats, that ive made on mpc 1000)
7. I heard about a rumor, that in each turning on the mpc 3000 - i have to create my own program.
8. Is there a big problem with only 32mb of ram? It causes producer to be less creative? It causes to storage less long samples in one time on different pads? Or is it only matter, when im recording some sounds from turntable to my mpc 3000 ?
9. What other options doesn't the mpc 3000 have in comparison to mpc 1000 ?

For all answers - I really thank :)
Please help me made my decision. I've never had a such dilema :D
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By Retrofreak Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:46 pm
Oldskull wrote:I really don't know, what to do. The mpc 3000 is just lovely cool and that should be the real mpc. But im a lil bit stressed, to switch myself from the new one to that old one. I'm using some effects. Mainly 4 band eq and a compressor. Especially for my drums. I don't chop mainly on mpc, because it takes time and it's not so precise like in sony sound forge (which i use to chop samples and tracks). Usually i'm sampling down from digital sources and chop the samples in sony sound forge. When it comes to sample a vinyl, i just record it to sony sound forge and then cut the sample. All of them i'm converting to .wav files and drag n drop to my memory card on mpc.
I can tell, that i'm not feeling my mpc 1000. I like it, but not love it. When im looking on the mpc 3000 i feel that something. Something tells me, that i will be very happy with this machine. I like the oldschool aspects of the mpc 3000. I like, when a machine is big, build like a tank n ****. But really don't want to get an headache with this low ram and without build in usb to pc port or internal card reader.
I have a few questions, that should made my decision for an mpc 3000 user:

1. Does mpc 3000 read .wav files?
2. Can i put an internal Compact Flash card reader or a hard drive in it?
3. Is there an option in mpc 3000 to chop automatically the sample, to fit the 16 pads?
4. Are there in mpc 3000 keys, which i can switch in the samples bank quickly ?
5. Is there an option like : "Pitch shift", "Time stretch" etc.?
6. Is there a chance to convert my program files, samples, sequences and **** to fit the mpc 3000 ? (I don't want to lose my beats, that ive made on mpc 1000)
7. I heard about a rumor, that in each turning on the mpc 3000 - i have to create my own program.
8. Is there a big problem with only 32mb of ram? It causes producer to be less creative? It causes to storage less long samples in one time on different pads? Or is it only matter, when im recording some sounds from turntable to my mpc 3000 ?
9. What other options doesn't the mpc 3000 have in comparison to mpc 1000 ?

For all answers - I really thank :)
Please help me made my decision. I've never had a such dilema :D


The MPC 60 and 3000 are my favourites, but if I was you id either:

1. Stay with a newer MPC for the features and USB integration.

2. Get a 60 or 3000 and use it to trigger VST sounds, samples and EFX in your computer, so you have the best of both worlds.


I've been using mine with Guru and Maschine and it's opened up a whole new workflow as I'm no longer a slave to zip disks and snd. conversions.

If I was to choose an MPC based on sound alone it would be the 60 every time followed by 3000.

If it was on features and integration it would be a 2500JJOS or 5000 imo.

In summary:

I'd switch to a 3000 in a heartbeat.
Last edited by Retrofreak on Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.