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By CharlesRandolph Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:13 pm
If it's just a hobby then it doesn't matter what MPC a person buys. He said it himself, he has the MPC X and uses 50% of it... but my guess would be around 15%. I've seen his videos and they're geared toward beginners and novices, so what he's saying is a good gauge for his audience.
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By Scrawny Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:06 pm
Just ask yourself what you want an older MPC for.
The swing, the sound, "it's what dilla used", for instagram pics --> better off getting a new mpc
Are you ready to commit to maintaining it and upgrading it so it's compatible with the rest of your setup? Cf card, usb, etc, RAM upgrade if it's not already got it, screen maintenence, etc. no --> new mpc
Otherwise go for it.
Sidenote, I got the same Ikea chair as him. :smoker:
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By Lampdog Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:16 pm
I loved the simplicity of 2kxl, he's right, it's a focused machine that does what it does and that's it.

I love the diff filters, eq's and routing in X. It's something I always wanted in a new mpc. I used and loved all of that in the 4k. One of the first things I did was compare 4k functions I frequently used (not you, ME, ones that I USE, before yall get panties in bunches) to functions in X. I found X lacking a bit but excelling in other ways. The WAY they were implemented was diff in X and at first put me off, I just needed to get used to it, and I did.

New or old, get whatever you want, balance that with something that inspires you and you have your golden egg after that. Not all the time we get something we crave and then it doesn't move your soul. So find that balance, go forth and bang pads.
By DokBrown Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:25 pm
Once you find an instrument you really know, I doubt u want to change.

I will be using the MPC LIVE for the next 10 years+. AKAI will drop some new ish they swear I need but I will cop a used MPC LIVE when this 1 breaks. I may actually stop updating the OS this year or next. Major UI updates prolly will piss me off.

If you made bangers for 4-5 summers on a mpc4000, I would just get another 1 before I learn a new machine. If the MPC is the center of your studio setup, then it is the center of your sound. A new interface, new pads/knobs & new FX would change your workflow & could ruin your sound . . . . . .

https://www.attackmagazine.com/features ... own-sound/


I admit a newbie is probably better off with a mpc ONE or akai force. Why get locked into some old hardware that doesn’t have an SD card . . . . . .
By DokBrown Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:30 pm
Scrawny wrote:Just ask yourself what you want an older MPC for.
The swing, the sound, "it's what dilla used", for instagram pics --> better off getting a new mpc
Are you ready to commit to maintaining it and upgrading it so it's compatible with the rest of your setup? Cf card, usb, etc, RAM upgrade if it's not already got it, screen maintenence, etc. no --> new mpc
Otherwise go for it.
Sidenote, I got the same Ikea chair as him. :smoker:


a lot of these people are “drum machine collectors”

https://reverb.com/news/moby-to-sell-dr ... everb-shop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9q48UlfD1w


it’s like guns. I rec every 1 who is responsible have 1-2 guns for hunting/self-defense. I know “collectors” who have 2-3 fancy rifles that they haven’t touched in 12-16 months because they have an arsenal of 10-20 guns. My MPC will slap me for cheating if I ignore her for more than a month ;-)
By CharlesRandolph Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:02 pm
Yes, collecting is nice until it's not. What once brought joy and freedom, soon become a chore and a prison.


DokBrown wrote:
a lot of these people are “drum machine collectors”

https://reverb.com/news/moby-to-sell-dr ... everb-shop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9q48UlfD1w


it’s like guns. I rec every 1 who is responsible have 1-2 guns for hunting/self-defense. I know “collectors” who have 2-3 fancy rifles that they haven’t touched in 12-16 months because they have an arsenal of 10-20 guns. My MPC will slap me for cheating if I ignore her for more than a month ;-)
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By NearTao Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:06 pm
Yeah... I guess you guys are right on his audience.

I am by no means saying the 4k is the end all be all... but the way he passed it off as "just a sampler" had me scratching my head... that thing is crazy deep... and a lot of the things that are nice on the new MPC line help streamline things for new users way more than the 4k ever will. Later ya'll.
By DokBrown Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:25 pm
I should mention that a $1000 US dollars is a lot of $$$ in some corners of the world. I’ve had talks with my friends from Senegal / Mexico city / Nigeria about expanding beat culture’s presence in their home countries.

SOFTWARE is cool but A used mpc / used roland SP / NEW electribe for $200-400 is a game changer for these peoples. We are talking about rounding up some cheap mpc1000s to take with us out of the country. With JJOS & the right synth/drum machine, this machine was portable & powerful & reliable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZoJ7CJzgo

https://academy.scratch.com/major-lazer-played-cuba

If any1 is interested in joining me in this work, hit me up.
LBjr
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By CharlesRandolph Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:05 pm
NearTao wrote:Yeah... I guess you guys are right on his audience.

I am by no means saying the 4k is the end all be all... but the way he passed it off as "just a sampler" had me scratching my head... that thing is crazy deep... and a lot of the things that are nice on the new MPC line help streamline things for new users way more than the 4k ever will. Later ya'll.


I'm assuming you meant to say 2KXL, so I will read it as so. :-D But yes he's talking to his audience, which for the most part are beginners and novice. Power user and enthusiast tend to have different topics of discussion. Perhaps not which machine to buy, but why and how they use this particular machine, in this particular situation, during this session.
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By Lampdog Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:02 am
Yeah I think NT meant 2kxl.
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By mr_debauch Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:23 am
the factor also is... brand new mpc one, second hand live, and 20 year old 2000xl is the same price.
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By richie Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:50 am
NearTao wrote:For every great point Marlow's making here... I find one point I'm scratching my head on...


I watched it as well. I was a bit confused why he was making this video when he already did one on the same topic a month before.

He did however say in the previous video that part of the reason why he got an XL is for the views.
By CharlesRandolph Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:21 am
mr_debauch wrote:the factor also is... brand new mpc one, second hand live, and 20 year old 2000xl is the same price.


If you add wood sides, 8 outs, cf card, and vinyl skin it's: $2200 :lol: