DECIDING TIME! 1000 right now? Or save for 2500?

yo,

i finally have enough cash flow for an MPC!!!!

The only delemma now is, should I get the 1000, as my first, and risk the pads?


Or should i work my ass off for another two months and go all out to get the 2500, for quality reassurance?

PLEASE VOTE!


peace

it's up to you really. If it was me, I'd save up for the 2500. You can get a brand new for around $1600. But if you want to work on an MP right away, cop an used 1000 and get busy.

Be patient, and save up for the 2500. The reward will feel much greater, and in addition, you wont have the sense of doubt that you would have if you bought the 1k.

Yeah, just be patient and save for a 2500.

Besides the pads is everything else the 2500 offers worth saving for?

where can u get one new for 1600?

^^ ebay

girls call me pogi wrote:Besides the pads is everything else the 2500 offers worth saving for?

it depends if your actully going to be using it.........

djobserv wrote:

girls call me pogi wrote:Besides the pads is everything else the 2500 offers worth saving for?

it depends if your actully going to be using it.........

ok?? Could you elaborate a bit?

the attributes of the 2500 that make it more desirable than the 1000 are few.

hardware wise, you get out of the box 8 outputs, 2 qknobs, 2 additional midi outputs, and interlink electronic pads. the 1000 has 4 outputs, 2 midi ins/outs, and poorly made resistive pads that you should expect to replace.

software wise, with the 2500, you get a lackluster OS with saving bugs, just like the 1000 os. however, properly loaded with the jj os, there is no software feature that the 2500 has over the 1000 - you can do all the same stuff.

portability - the 2500 is the size of a cash register, the 1000 is the size of a laptop. i carry the 1000 with me virtually everywhere, because i can and because it is simply not good to do all your production in the same place, ESPECIALLY your home or bedroom. you get better results if you're out of your comfort zone. likewise, it's incredibly useful to take the 1000 to a public library and sample VHS. this would certainy not be the case with the 2500, as it's twice as big.

you must look at what you're getting out of paying so much for a 2500 and see if it's worth it. look at it from the perspective of what you can do with both machines. the only thing that the 2500 can do that the 1000 cannot is control a couple more midi units and utilize 8 individual outs rather than 4. otherwise, there is no functional capability that the 2500 offers that the 1000 does not.

for that reason, i say that the 2500 is REALLY NOT WORTH THE ADDITIONAL MONEY. you're paying way too much for legacy and not enough for functionality, especially when you can get a machine that does the exact same thing down to the T for half as much used.

so - i say buy a used 1000. if you can, find one with broken pads and haggle the seller down. ask all the right questions - "are the pads broken, does the data wheel skip values, do all the buttons work?" each time you find out something is damaged, haggle the guy to bring the price down even further.

repairs are really really easy and cost pennies, and you can end up with a mint condition refurbed 1000 for cheap if you use a little brainpower.

either way, BUY USED. do not buy a new mpc. 99% of the time, any issue with these machines are superficial and any idiot with a soldering iron (or 7 dollars with which he can buy a soldering iron) can fix the issue.

so as the voice of reason here - get the 1000. use it portably to sample more. wear it like a sidearm and sample on the road...put a dynamic mic in the bag and grab sound wherever. rather than bringin samples to your mpc, bring your mpc to samples.

BUT
if your studio is sedentary and MODULE HEAVY, and if your soundcard input has a lot of inputs, the 2500 is for you for sure.

i'm all about the mobile studio. i use my laptop as a module (takes up 1 midi) and my mpc as sampler/control. no other midi outs other than to reason.

this is drastically different than many/most others, so keep that in mind.

2 midi outs is fine, but 4 could be awesome if that's what you're into. i'm just saying that's not worth however many hundred more you're paying...

thanks for all your input.

Now that i think about it, I dont need a 2500. Although i take my music production very seriously (as i have for the past 4 years), there is no immediate need for something as expensive as the 2500, when for $1000 less, i can achieve the same result...

For those that care, my music is very raw. Just choping up a dope loop, bang out some drums and add an ill bassline; thats my ultimate groove. I enjoy being able to freestyle and battle over a repettative, groovy break (thus the type of beats i create).

Keep it underground!!

phuck yeah, thanks again.

peace

PSProductions wrote:thanks for all your input.

Now that i think about it, I dont need a 2500. Although i take my music production very seriously (as i have for the past 4 years), there is no immediate need for something as expensive as the 2500, when for $1000 less, i can achieve the same result...

For those that care, my music is very raw. Just choping up a dope loop, bang out some drums and add an ill bassline; thats my ultimate groove. I enjoy being able to freestyle and battle over a repettative, groovy break (thus the type of beats i create).

Keep it underground!!

phuck yeah, thanks again.

peace

there u go man.

hope it all works out!

For those that care, my music is very raw. Just choping up a dope loop, bang out some drums and add an ill bassline; thats my ultimate groove. I enjoy being able to freestyle and battle over a repettative, groovy break (thus the type of beats i create).

the beauty of any mpc, especially the later ones with grid and a number of other deep programming features, is that you can make things as simple or as complicated as you want depending on how well you know the machine

however, in my opinion, ESPECIALLY the simple stuff gets easier and sounds better the better you know your mpc because when you're dealing with bare miniumum, any swing or off timing or "human" feel is much more directly noticeable rather than just a part of the whole, so you really have to think about what you want to play when, etc.

You have to be nuts to get an MPC 1000 today. The only people interested in an MPC 1000 is the people that already wasted their money buying one. Save your money and get an MPC 2500 if an MPC is what you want/need.