2000xl vs 2500 pricewise

Is the 2500 really better than the 2000xl? I can grab a 2000xl for $600-700 loaded or a normal mpc 2500 new for around $1200. do you think the double price is worth it?

if i do go with the mpc 2000xl do i haveo to buy anything else in order to fully master and burn a cd w/ my beats? im going to be using a turntable for sampling. can i fully mix master or whatever on my mpc? is the only thing i have to get the firebox or whatever so i can plug in the mpc and record to protools?

samething for 2500 do i need any additional stuff? it has the usb so do i even need a firebox or can i just connect it thru usb? do i need any 16 track recorders or whatever.

and what are the main differences between the 2500 and 2000xl that make the 2500 so much better than the 2000xl

thanks

holy christ, well, without spoonfeeding you to much (you should really look around the boards, most of this stuff is on here already. check www.tweakheadz.com for more info as well.





if i do go with the mpc 2000xl do i haveo to buy anything else in order to fully master and burn a cd w/ my beats? im going to be using a turntable for sampling. can i fully mix master or whatever on my mpc?


The MPC was never designed to fully mix and master (save for the MPC5000 to a certian degree) so you will be hard pressed to try and fully mixdown and master a song straight from an mpc. The MPC is a sequencer/sampler that can take chops, loops and sounds and arrange them in a logical order. Typically (though of course, there are many ways to accomplish this) producers will use the mpc to sequence a beat, that is, to arrange it on the mpc's sequencer, before tracking it into a digital audio workstation (protools, cubase, etc.) and recording vocals, adding effects, mixing, tweaking, etc.

While technically, it is possible to produce an entire song, vocals and all on an mpc, you would be ill advised to do so.



is the only thing i have to get the firebox or whatever so i can plug in the mpc and record to protools?

I think Cubase LE comes standard with a firebox. So if you wanted protools, you'd have to get an mbox or some other tool to record into protools. But yes, this would be the only thing you would need to get you up and recording into your computer.







samething for 2500 do i need any additional stuff? it has the usb so do i even need a firebox or can i just connect it thru usb? do i need any 16 track recorders or whatever.


The USB on the 2500 doesn't transfer audio data like a firebox would. You can transfer files through it, but you can't use it to record streaming sounds directly into protools.

alright so basically i will need a mbox or whatever to record. do i need a 16 track recorder or whatever if i have an mbox because dont they basically do the same thing? thanks man

Lithion wrote:holy christ, well, without spoonfeeding you to much (you should really look around the boards, most of this stuff is on here already. check www.tweakheadz.com for more info as well.





if i do go with the mpc 2000xl do i haveo to buy anything else in order to fully master and burn a cd w/ my beats? im going to be using a turntable for sampling. can i fully mix master or whatever on my mpc?


The MPC was never designed to fully mix and master (save for the MPC5000 to a certian degree) so you will be hard pressed to try and fully mixdown and master a song straight from an mpc. The MPC is a sequencer/sampler that can take chops, loops and sounds and arrange them in a logical order. Typically (though of course, there are many ways to accomplish this) producers will use the mpc to sequence a beat, that is, to arrange it on the mpc's sequencer, before tracking it into a digital audio workstation (protools, cubase, etc.) and recording vocals, adding effects, mixing, tweaking, etc.

While technically, it is possible to produce an entire song, vocals and all on an mpc, you would be ill advised to do so.



is the only thing i have to get the firebox or whatever so i can plug in the mpc and record to protools?

I think Cubase LE comes standard with a firebox. So if you wanted protools, you'd have to get an mbox or some other tool to record into protools. But yes, this would be the only thing you would need to get you up and recording into your computer.







samething for 2500 do i need any additional stuff? it has the usb so do i even need a firebox or can i just connect it thru usb? do i need any 16 track recorders or whatever.


The USB on the 2500 doesn't transfer audio data like a firebox would. You can transfer files through it, but you can't use it to record streaming sounds directly into protools.

i think the noobs are hoping our opinion will change from the last thread that compaired an xl to a 2500

thaprecepta wrote:alright so basically i will need a mbox or whatever to record. do i need a 16 track recorder or whatever if i have an mbox because dont they basically do the same thing? thanks man

no you dont

xibalba1875 wrote:i think the noobs are hoping our opinion will change from the last thread that compaired an xl to a 2500

awwww shyte haha

i was askin dollar for dollar if youd rather get the 2000xl or the 2500 which hasnt been answered. but i got the rest of my questions answered. iv been working on reason for fun and i decided if i want to get serious to get an mpc so i know like nothing about real hardware

thaprecepta wrote:

xibalba1875 wrote:i think the noobs are hoping our opinion will change from the last thread that compaired an xl to a 2500

awwww shyte haha

i was askin dollar for dollar if youd rather get the 2000xl or the 2500 which hasnt been answered. but i got the rest of my questions answered. iv been working on reason for fun and i decided if i want to get serious to get an mpc so i know like nothing about real hardware

just fkin with ya i would go for the 2500 hands down just because its got much more and is all around easier (imo) to work with.

Buy what you want to. I hate when n00bs ask questions like that, only to try and argue by immediately asking "yea okay, so you say buy this one, but what about..."

Do the research, get educated, read, read, read, then buy what your heart tells you from that point.

Lithion wrote:Buy what you want to. I hate when n00bs ask questions like that, only to try and argue by immediately asking "yea okay, so you say buy this one, but what about..."

Do the research, get educated, read, read, read, then buy what your heart tells you from that point.

well you have to know where to look @ i just picked up two sites. and whats wrong with asking questions? its such a bitchass move to keep knowledge to yourself

thaprecepta wrote:

Lithion wrote:Buy what you want to. I hate when n00bs ask questions like that, only to try and argue by immediately asking "yea okay, so you say buy this one, but what about..."

Do the research, get educated, read, read, read, then buy what your heart tells you from that point.

well you have to know where to look @ i just picked up two sites. and whats wrong with asking questions? its such a bitchass move to keep knowledge to yourself

2000 vs 2500 isn't knowledge, it's opinion.

2500 is more expensive but has way more features (usb, cardreader, qlinks, jjos, tiltscreen, HD option, more ram) and might sound a little better to some ears..and it comes mint if you want..any more questions?
get the 2500 if you can afford it..and the 2000 if not..

question to the OP, where bouts are goin for $1200

well you have to know where to look @ i just picked up two sites. and whats wrong with asking questions? its such a bitchass move to keep knowledge to yourself
easily download and compare the 2 machine manuals.
for yourself, make up your own mind, take charge of your grey matter.
knowledge? knowledge?

and what are the main differences between the 2500 and 2000xl that make the 2500 so much better than the 2000xl
Look in the manuals and compare = equals self-knowledge

samething for 2500 do i need any additional stuff? it has the usb so do i even need a firebox or can i just connect it thru usb? do i need any 16 track recorders or whatever.
tweakheadz.com has a beginners guide that will spell it out clearly for you = self-knowledge.
Also, the manual will tell you what the USB is REALLY designed for, not what your thinking with this statement.

Is the 2500 really better than the 2000xl?
no one can answer that but you and your experience. you may prefer one over the other, only you can make that fianl purchase.

if i do go with the mpc 2000xl do i haveo to buy anything else in order to fully master and burn a cd w/ my beats? im going to be using a turntable for sampling. can i fully mix master or whatever on my mpc? is the only thing i have to get the firebox or whatever so i can plug in the mpc and record to protools?
You don't even know what goes in a basic studio, how did you skip to mastering already?

Ya'll stop beatin these dudes up!! Not everybody is a vet, answer the man/kids 's or don't say nothin. All that neg energy about how you hate to mess with noobs and all, go beat off somewhere with that. And if you got a problem, music talks, BS walks.

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I must say, the MPC 2000 gives me the rawest feel (the best), and the 2000XL is different a little bit. I would rather lose the feel and gain the options, (get a 2500 or at least a 2000XL, pound for pound). All akai sequencers bang out, but not all producers/beatmakers can even load up a drum kit much less bang out some heat. In 2008, I would say get USB (2500) and the option to use more than one program per sequence (2000XL, 2500). No need to make a new drum program per sequence just cause the 2000 feel is a LITTLE bit better. Like I said, all AKAI's are made right, so keep up with the times and make your workflow environment easy (2500, 2000XL).
I feel the dude talking about the DMV, and don't laugh at him, you haters. If you whip out the MPC to pass time, get that drum track flowin with some pre-sampled heat, you could be laying the foundation of some bangers. Just add your MIDI and dump it to ProTools when your ready. I used to bang out in airports while traveling. I remember bad ass women always had to holla, lol.
With Reason 4.0 being so popular, you can buy ALL modules/keyboards for dirt cheap prices (compared to pre-virtual synths) and even find better deals on MPC's. Alot of the industry will not let go of the MPC, who wants to clickk when you can bounce and bang!!! BUT, hit up Craigslist.com. Don't fool with EBAY, it is very risky. Craigslist.com will not have as many listings, so you will have to check it every day and be patient. When you find what you want, you meet the person face to face, in your city, and look at what your buying. You will find some JACKASS who bought a bunch of STUDIO EQUIPTMENT and wants to CASH OUT and sell it for cheap. I promise. My advise though, make sure your not this same guy in 6-12 months after the FAD of making beats is gone.

As a 10 year MPC vet (3-1998: MPC 2000 purchased!!) I see a lot of fly-by-night producers with mama's laptop looking to "learn" how to make music/beats, get a youtube deal and live happily ever after. Thats fine, good luck. I refuse to be discouraged by the masses and mass confusion, as I know I am the truth and everything will come to light. You can't fake it out here, no matter how cool it looks to be a beatmaker or WHATEVER this fad is called-----
lol

copy and paste = knowledge!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111