Just thought I'd share this.

hey, loads of you have prob done this but I just tried it last night, ok so the process goes like this,

found a sample, chopped it up in NDC then make a sequence then copy copy copy copy copy then to multiple sequences, then I left the chops at the same pitch in each sequence but I tuned up the drums in each sequence by +2 for each one so I had a 4 sequences where the drums were ......+2........+4..........+6..........+8, oh sorry I forgot to say the obvious thing that i had to copy the drum program 4 times....so then anyway I've now got 4 sequences each with the same pitch sampled chops but differently tuned/ pitches drum hits, then I recorded every sequence to sample in song mode...then I again used NDC to chop each sequence into hits so I could play the each song using the pads....now the reason I made 4 songs with different pitched drums is so that you now have 4 different programs in which you can tune down until all the drum hits are back to 0 but the chops will be reduced in each program.

Just try it out and see because it can be very cool live. If you want I can make a demo vid (actually I always say that) but this time I will.

Cool Idea.

I would like to know how some go about getting a nice Lo-Fi crunch to their drums. I don't care much for the bit convert effect in trim mode. Does anyone sample records at 45 rpm and then pitch the sample back down to normal to get a lower sampling rate? If so, can someone tell me how many increments to pitch the sample back down to get it to normal tuning?

hmmmm, I never really know what sound I'm looking for I just mess around until it sounds good, I use and have tried all sorts of things, I usually sample using a vestax pdx TT which has ultra pitch which makes it prob more than 100 rpm but I don't understand how sampling a drum at a high speed then tuning it down to it's usual speed adds lo-fi. I'm not really that educated in those things though, but I usually mess with things like adding filters to the same drum thats been copied 5 times or/and maybe tuning drums down and some up and layering them at different velocities....

so in answer to your question I have NO idea haha. I always just mess around until the drums sound nice.

TribeCalledQuest wrote:Cool Idea.

I would like to know how some go about getting a nice Lo-Fi crunch to their drums. I don't care much for the bit convert effect in trim mode. Does anyone sample records at 45 rpm and then pitch the sample back down to normal to get a lower sampling rate? If so, can someone tell me how many increments to pitch the sample back down to get it to normal tuning?

i think this idea only makes a difference with a 12 bit sampler. trying it on a 2000 or 2500 hasn't made any real difference to just sampling at normal speed in my experience

@ the op.

Couldn't you get similar results by importing and pitching your chops in your drum program, then using Simult to trigger them together? Sounds like what you're doing takes a lot of work!

A vid may help.

Well, you wouldn't be lowering the bit rate, but the sample rate. If something is sampled at 44.1khz and then played back much slower, the sample rate is also playing slower.

haha, @ coz you're so right but now I think about it there was a reason why I didn't do that last night, s hit can't think why right now...arghh thats gonna bug me.

I'll be back with an answer.

ok, remembered why I didn't do that.

It was because I wanted to chop up my finished song, which had 14 or 15 tracks (can't remember) and therefore it would maybe take even longer to mess around with simult with so many hits. like each track was a diff sound, drum etc...

I'll do a vid on sat 4 sure.

Look forward to it.

rarara wrote:

TribeCalledQuest wrote:Cool Idea.

I would like to know how some go about getting a nice Lo-Fi crunch to their drums. I don't care much for the bit convert effect in trim mode. Does anyone sample records at 45 rpm and then pitch the sample back down to normal to get a lower sampling rate? If so, can someone tell me how many increments to pitch the sample back down to get it to normal tuning?

i think this idea only makes a difference with a 12 bit sampler. trying it on a 2000 or 2500 hasn't made any real difference to just sampling at normal speed in my experience

It actually does cause the exact same kind of distortion on a 16bit sampler as a 12bit sampler, the difference being that because there are fewer bits on the 12bit sampler (and often fewer hz) it tends to sound even more lo-fi faster.