Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By m56p87 Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:57 pm
Blip I think the topic started as parellell compression then diverged to side chaining compression techniques, I don't think anyone's confusing the two. Of course can buy a hardware alternative with better compression but I think there's something romantic about pushing your machine past it's initial limitations, I'm sure you can relate. :smoker:
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By Funkydrops Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:25 pm
Straight from the realm of dead threads, kinda zombi-like but here it goes...

OK for parallel compression (in the box): it takes 2 fxs, bla bla bla... for certain beats is dope to do on drums IMHO. It's true that the trick forces you in the box, but if there it's where you are or want to be, the criticism is pointless.

OK but also NOK for side-chain (in the box): the trick is ducking a MONO bass with a MONO kick, all in the box, using just one FX. What happens is that my MPC goes glitchy so it's kinda unusable if not to track-out a single sequence containing the full arranged and mute-dropped beat.

If you have JJOS you can replicate it. I've posted the instructions.

I'd like to know if your MPC goes glitchy too.

THANKS
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By bliprock Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:20 pm
Funkydrops wrote:OK but also NOK for side-chain (in the box): the trick is ducking a MONO bass with a MONO kick, all in the box
Huh ? what is NOK? It is not ducking it. Its a compressor, you can just hear the compression pumping as it changes the gain. There is no side chain in for the onboard compressor in the MPC, so it can not do ducking or differrential compression. So no I do not see how you can do this and call it ducking, cos it aint. But then I do not know what NOK means here? all good.
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By bliprock Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:10 am
Oh I see. NOK. well some one does, :fku: me.
Im not hating just saying as some one that uses hardware compressor/gate/limiters it needs a side chain input for ducking/de-essing or differential compression.
Yes all you need is one signal signal, split thwn one compressed and one not compressed, then summed. This is parallel compression. So really you are going to have phase issues and the like, but it can be done easily if you double track or split the signal. i tried using FX and routing but its not very doable in stereo. If it goes out and in and out again I stil do not get parallel compression. Cos i do some ducking with hardware and am always looking into it.
The using two sides of stereo is just splitting stereo signal, but not really like I say you need to do. You need same signal. As there is differences in the stereo inage it means that the signals are slightly different and not the same..... BUT >If I send a mono signal to outs 1 and 2, then this is the way to go. as it allows the exact same signal to be passed,. unlike stereo which will have differences in the stereo field that do not equate to the exact same signal. So it has to be mono in this case and sent to stereo pair out. This is the spiltting you all need to do here. This is the only way besides doubling tracks to make a split signal IMO. I have listened to both channels and it seems to be right when I A/B the signals with double blind test. I have to check what I do in studio, so thats what I did to check that the stereo signal was what I wanted. thanks me later, :roll: :P Anyway up shot is you have to then return signals but this is where you have to make it both mono returns NOT stereo. This is where 1 FX slot is needed and the input has to be set to two mono in L/R mode. That is in JJOSXL. Obviously you just make one in go through compressor, set in FX slot 1, and the other one does not go through the FX slot with compressor... You can still send both to the second FX that is not being used as well. If you have JJOSXL you can also send it back out to another source as mono or stereo with other outs that you have and send it to mixer fx chain. hell even another compressor or use it as a another side chain. See you have a split signal and its getting summed in the MPC and IS parallel compression. only mono but, but its true parallel as its exact same signal not stereo and of course it all comes out the main outs in stereo. as its a mono signal not stereo it works. Also you still have main out put compressor free to.
By Roberto3000 Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:44 am
Hey can someone please explain Funk.E Technician's method for parallel compression? I don't understand how it works.

Also his "panning" method for ducking, i'm not sure how to set it up either.