Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By Chop.Suey Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:24 pm
Hi Folks

I would very much appreciate if we have something like a Workflow Thread.

I own a 2500 and I'm new into JJ OS XL... I read the Manuel of JJ OS XL again, again and again but it's like eating dry bread :? I think the best way to learn is tryin out and learn from your mistakes. OK 8)
But it would be nice if some of your guys would make a workflow vid tutorial or screenshot tutorial. It is always easier to understand if someone show U how to do as someone just told U how to do.

I think it would be nice for everyone... for beginners just as professionals.
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By MeSoHordey Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:26 pm
Maybe you should start by making a video of some of the things you do know. That might spur interest.
By Bathmutz Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:33 pm
The absolute best thing for you to do is just start working with your mpc. Try out every function. Press window and shift everywehere. See what is what.

I got jjos2xl a couple of months ago. I just tried out everything and if i didn't know what it was i would look it up in the manual.

Also, try to be more specific when your asking a question. Don't expect people to make a video for you.

Good luck.
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By Superpowerface Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:10 am
What aspects of workflow?

For a basic start:
- Record sounds or load sounds to the CF card/hard drive.
- Chop em up.
- Assign to pads in a program.
- Assign program to track.
- Record.
- Repeat for more tracks.
By Chop.Suey Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:46 am
well allright... maybe I'm not specific enough.

what I want to see is: how your first steps? Do you chop all samples in the mpc or do you use other software tools like wavelab, recycle and so on?

Or how you begin a new song project? Do you first start to find a good sample arrangement for a nice flowin melody or you start first to find a good workin drumloop.
How many bars u set for the first sequence...

So the point where I always stuck is... to get to the next blank sequence and copy the tracks with all effects.


I'm pretty sure I'll find out everything on my own but since the last month my privat life shrinks to a minimum... so I only have an hour a day time. Thats really **** up. :fku:

I hope you're understand... a tread with workflow vid tutorials or screenshot tutorials would be very nice to watch different practices.

peeze
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By bliprock Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:55 pm
Chop.Suey wrote:well allright... maybe I'm not specific enough.

what I want to see is: how your first steps? Do you chop all samples in the mpc or do you use other software tools like wavelab, recycle and so on?

Or how you begin a new song project? Do you first start to find a good sample arrangement for a nice flowin melody or you start first to find a good workin drumloop.
How many bars u set for the first sequence...

So the point where I always stuck is... to get to the next blank sequence and copy the tracks with all effects.


I'm pretty sure I'll find out everything on my own but since the last month my privat life shrinks to a minimum... so I only have an hour a day time. Thats really **** up. :fku:

I hope you're understand... a tread with workflow vid tutorials or screenshot tutorials would be very nice to watch different practices.

peeze

This is more like holding your hand though! I mean you are asking how to produce a song, and that covers many topics like you have asked. Everyone is different and has different stuff and different work flows depending on what they have and how they like to work. And that is the crux - it is up to you to decide what and how you do things. I think the key here is to enjoy it, even if it is work. And just copying someone is not going to enlighten you in that respect. You should work on something you are good at then go from there. Be it making a beat or playing keys, or having a scratch. This way you have something as a basis to go from. As it is all up to you, you have to decide which way you do things as per above.

After a while you will improve. Read everything on this forum that you can.

On how to copy tracks and effects, you just copy the sequence, and then if you want you can delete one or all tracks at once. Read the manual if you can not copy a sequence.

I do not use a computer at all, I do not use DAW or software, but that is rare nowadays, so all my choppin is on MPC, and I use midi with synths ect, to 4track. Old skool style.

Nowadays all everyone does is use loop packs and that is lame to me when you can sample anything or make anything. Meaning you are outsourcing your creative work.
I do not use loop packs or anything just chopped breaks and drum samples and beats i make... So that is a kinda insight how i make stuff.

You just gotta be able to play, that helps. music i mean. Cos your making music.
Again everyone is different here, it is up to you to decide. I mean you could just start with the basics and make beats. Just make as many good beats with different kits as you can possibly make. practice makes perfect. Then start copying and changing the good ones. then practice making bass lines. Get the basics right and everything else follows.

And you know that there is you youtube yeah. just search MPC on youtube and there is 1000s of vids to watch people working.
By Chop.Suey Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:10 pm
This is more like holding your hand though! I mean you are asking how to produce a song, and that covers many topics like you have asked. Everyone is different and has different stuff and different work flows depending on what they have and how they like to work. And that is the crux - it is up to you to decide what and how you do things.


I think you understand me totaly wrong. :mrgreen: I don't wanna copy some one or some technic....
Everyone is different you said and thats exactly what I wanna see... I want to see what is your way 2 make a song.

OK I don't wanna repeat all the time I'll take time to learn the machine and like MeSoHordey said already, come back 1 or 2 month later and post a workflow vid.
And maybe one or another come up with... oh cool u did that, that way... man I prefer to do this first or later... U know :wink:

but its cool, thx for everybody who answered on my tread


peeze
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By bredal187 Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:32 am
He just wants to know how you work so he can gather inspiration. Isn't that hard to understand?


I often hear a sound or a sample I'd like to mess around with. So what I do is find the name of the song, boot up my MPC, sample the sucker and chop it into pieces.

Next step is assigning the slices. Takes a while, but when it's done I just play around with the slices until I have a melodi or something i like. Then i record it, maybe even make 2-3 variations and that's it.

Then i go into my library and find some drums or maybe a drum loop that fits the overall sound of the track that I'm slowly building up in my head. I record the drums and that's basically it.

Add some percussion, bass, piano or whatever. :-)
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By consuming Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:39 pm
Alright, a quickie scenario. I have a few banks of basic drum samples, roughly 400 sounds. These are all chopped and ready to go. Turn on the MPC and load the entire drum bank. When starting a session, I find it easier to have a bunch of samples available in RAM rather than pick and choose in the Load screen. I get a rough draft beat going, usually by mapping programs in the Main screen or GPE. Once the beat is roughly sequenced, I refine the sounds. Resample, replace sounds, adjust parameters. Import or sample other sounds. Add keys. Before saving, I purge unused samples.
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By konc3pt Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:40 pm
sometimes I start off by watching couple beatn makn vids on youtube while gettn head straight. If I'm working on MPC I'll usually load up some drumkits I bought from this site to get basic boom-bap then I start on melody or sample. I try not to follow any rules or regulations and rather follow the flow of the beat
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By Superpowerface Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:39 pm
To throw in something different, I almost never start with the beat. Usually it's a bassline, melody or chord progression. It's too easy to get sucked into perfecting your drums when there's a whole lot else that needs attention.