Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By coles_brandon Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:23 am
Hot to def! You'll def need to add some gain and bottom to your kick though. It really shows hot much the bit cruncher was overkill
By roxstar Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:05 am
"its out
has anyone tried it yet?"

It does it's job quite nicely. I don't get into the "gotta have the EXACT SP sound" debates like most do.. I can tell what sampler processed drums. Dirt is dirt. My purpose of re-sampling is to take some of the 'shine' off a sound. The bit-reducer in the 2500 does this very well. You can select anywhere from 4bit-12bit, and you can change the sample rate between 3 set rates. 11025 (sp'ish ring mod added), 22050 (nice setting to simply dirty the sound) and 44100. I haven't played with is a WHOLE lot, but from by brief toying around I've been very impressed. I own an SP-12, and an emax, but I've been using the lo-fi on my 404 more than anything. Not anymore. I'll probably never get rid of my classic pieces, but they will definitely be collecting more dust now. If you ever used the re-sampling on the ASR-X, you'd realize that the 2500's bit reducer is a thousand times better sounding! :)
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By Antonym Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:08 am
roxstar this is something i posted in a similar topic in the 1000 jj os forums about the new bit effect. i thought you'd dig it so i copied it over here.

ok this is pretty cool. i thought about this just a second ago.

i never had an sp1200 or any 12 bit sampler but for the longest time i tried to emulate the sound of 12 bit with the Hyperprism Sonic Decimator, a nice little direct x plugin. good results. however, it was a "last move" type of thing - ie after i tracked out.

let's say i made a bassline on the mpc with a sine wav/saw wav autochromatic program with qlink recoded low filter automation on for charactor as well as tune bends. we're talking about a 4 hour bassline here, something with a lot of nuance.

now let's say i recorded that into the daw and applied the sonic decimator to it, turning it into a 12 bit bassline. this action would apply AFTER the tune drop and AFTER the low filter - ie it would be a "static effect." it wouldn't get filtered out with the low filter or detuned with the tune automation.

however: here's what makes this jj bit degrader different.

it's all BEFORE. it's BEFORE the tune automation and BEFORE the low pass filter. ie, say you put a crispy edge to your sine/saw wave samples in the mpc so you can hear that fried, crystalline 12 bit sound. that sound mostly hits me in the high frequencies. now when you filter sweep it, you'll cut off that high frequency! it will come and go, which is quite different than the "static" overlaying effect if you had put it into your daw.

likewise with the tuning. as i posted before, downsampling a sound and THEN pitching it yields a different sounding downsample - it's "slower." when you downsample your sine/saw waves and then detune them with a qlink, you're going to have a "walking" downsample.

this applies more to tuned (16 levels or autochromatic) sample programs. if you have a multisampled bass pgm it won't be the same way since the sample conversion can be placed on EACH SAMPLE rather than just the origin sample.

all this promises a special charactor to the mpc1000's bit reducer. it's not REALLY putting the sound at a new bitrate/sample rate - it's still at 16 bit, just sounds different.

result: strangely automatable downsampling using lowpass filter and tuning. low filter = cutoff, tune = slow/speed the downsample.

i dont think this is something i've heard before. it's theoretically possible to set it up this way in reason or something but i've certainly never done it.

very excited to try this.


briefly i tried some of the stuff i described above and it most definitely worked as i expected. this is going to be a LOT of fun to play with.
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By temetrepo Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:44 am
i installed it last night and yes i like it
thanx for the info though
i'm a new convert
gonna pay them 30 buxs right now to get the password