Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By Defamed Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:55 pm
What are the pros and cons of the MPC1000 on each of these? Is there a difference at all?

I am planning to use an ASR 10 as a master keyboard with the mpc1000 as the main sequencer and an old Trigger Finger for the pads, K2000 and Proteus 1000 for sounds as well as a whole room full of vinyl.

I bought and sold gear as a non-producer gearhead to get this setup and it's now time to make beats!
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By hereo Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:00 am
All Pros my man. Not any negative differences on the JJ side. Its more advanced (I mean has more/better features) than the Akai OS. Not harder to use, and has a lot of time saving features also. I wouldnt keep the Akai OS on there more than 24 hrs. Get the JJ and load it up before you even use the MPC. In the future you'll look back and thank yourself for doin' so.

By Defamed Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:26 am
Is there any timing issues as opposed to the classic MPC timing?
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By hereo Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:30 am
As far as the timing bein' messed up or outta wack, no.
Some say the swing is different between certain models of MPCs and I bet they are. But nothin' that would prevent you from makin' your music.
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By naugie Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:09 am
swing is different on every software ever developed its an effect. but im using the akai os 2.11 its not bad im just using it cause someone has to.. i wanna see akai around and be there support for there mpc1000 software..there os is more manaul driven then automatic.. u can do more like man above me says with alot of ease with the jj os. but if u wanna use akai the only good ull be to an akai os is by emailing them bug fixes so not everyone will be out of the loop when a new os drops by akai..

jj os is third party os and isnt endursed or made by akai..my fear is that akai is gonna go out of buisness here soon if they cant fix the problem on all there mpc's there last stable os was the mpc3000 from what i read on these forums.. everything else afterwards has been a rehash but with shit support and no real stable os..i feel bad for the mpc4000 users if its true that its been out all this time and all they saw was 3 puny updates then damn shits not lookn good for akai..
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By Antonym Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:26 pm
on the akai mailiing list people noticed the jj timing was better than the code on OS 2.01

also, the jj addition of the following tools makes the jj os's sequencing vastly superior to akai's sequencing.

1 - grid edit
1b - 6pad grid edit
2 - midi grid edit
2b - ALL view midi grid edit
3 - graphical qreal edit
4 - shift timing in TC
5 - swing/shift assignable to qlink
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By stan steez Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:57 am
But his question was focussing in another direction. If or if not there are differences in terms of (sheer) sequencing. In this case I'would say the timing and groove, the main ingredients remain the same. MEANING: I guess nobody can tell if you programmed/sequenced a beat running AKAI or JJ OS.
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By Antonym Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:49 am
i would say there is at very least a rumored difference in timing and groove, based on that thing from the mailing list.

BUT say there isn't - there's still the issue of sequencing prowess between the akai os and the jj os. take that as tools you're using, or any other petty comparison. the sequencing tool is simply BETTER with the jj os, because it's more powerful.

take your basic 4 function calculator and compare it with (what i used in high school back in the day) the ti-83 graphing calculator. you can DO MORE with the latter.

and if akai goes out, it's because they deserve it. they have done nothing to impress me beyond not quelching jj's tremendous efforts with legal cockblock.

By earwolf Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:23 pm
bit OT, but I think that the timing/swing 'differences' between mpc's has been discussed enough for there to be a clear theme:

it was down to how easy it was to chop each sample to absolute zero startpoint - if the mpc in question had a waveform display that allowed super-precise edits, then you could end up with a very different groove (poss more 'robotic') to the same samples hacked to bits in the fonky nasty stinking no-display models (60 etc).

i wonder if that means the 500 will sound 'looser' than the 1k/2500?

not sure if anyone has ever really proven this theory - i know people have compared the sound, but there must be a way to get the same .wavs and sequences into all the models, run them and render 16 bars, then compare in sound forge or whatnot...
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By Antonym Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:28 pm
that's very possible and one of those simple things folks probably dont consider

By Defamed Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:53 pm
Thanks for all the replies.

I was aiming at the swing difference since I don't believe anybody asked regarding the JJ OS. I did know that there was a difference between Akai OS's but was wondering of the effects of JJ's programming intricacies.

I think Antonym and earwolf broke enlightened me a little me, especially the last posts