Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By D.A. Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:26 pm
i like to sequence the beat in the mp then record each track individually to pro tools. this takes awhile and i was wondering if there was a quicker way to do it but still be able to sequence in the mp

By Mike Feedback Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:36 pm
what hardware are you using to record into protools? how many inputs does it have?

the 2500 has 8+2 outputs which means you can send sounds to 10 different outputs at the same time, you'd just need an interface with 10 inputs.

in case you were wondering what 8+2 means, it means that there are 8 individual outputs, and then the 2 outputs for the stereo sound which you can use as separate mono outputs as well if you adjust volumes in the mixer and hard-pan pads to the left or right.

By D.A. Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:35 am
i have the 8 outputs but i dont want to use them because i was reading the last scratch and timbo's engineer said it don't sound the same. plus i only got the firewire solo.

By Mike Feedback Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:26 am
you shouldn't believe everything you read. instead, you should try to find out for yourself if it's true. also, she doesn't even mention what MPC they're using. odds are it probably isn't the 2500 she's talking about.

but i don't know how you can expect there to be a quicker way to record your tracks if you're not willing to use the individual outs.

and maybe it would be helpful for someone to record a break through the individual outs and also through the stereo outs and see if there actually is a noticeable difference.
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By hereo Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:36 am
I think she was talking about the 2000/2000XL cause she said it has "an expandable 8 outs." She said for sure that Danja uses the 4000. So I think the 2500 is not the MP in question.
And Like Mike said, try it for yourself. If you happen to hear a diff (which should only be the diff between MONO and STEREO, which on drums if you add a stereo effect like reverb it shouldnt matter all that much) than sit there like she said Timbo does and solo each track.
And as far as that "umph" she was talking about, throw some EQ on them drums and some compression and get the "umph" back. Dont let no dang outs take your "umph" away LOL! Make them drums thump!!!!!
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By DJ Nicklolai Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:37 pm
speaking of 8outs...
Im looking for an interface with 8 inputs, maybe a digidesign, maybe not.

i've been wanting to multitrack everything into a program on my computer and finish my mixes there. it'd be way better than recording the main outs, i'm kind of sick of that.

i also want to have midi going both ways so i can press play on the sequencer (or mpc) and have things synchronized. also so i can run reason alongside the computer sequencer, via rewire.

so questions for y'alls:
which interface?
- i hear the digi 002 rack's inputs are not all created equal, but damn protools is so slick. also expensive
- im also looking at the affordable tascam fw-1804, which has 2x4 midi on it. i could run cubase among other things, but obviously not protools.
- 8pre, is looking slick, and more midrange priced.

i don't need 8 audio outputs at this point, just 8 in, if i want to mix.

i have jj os 5.33 and havent gotten around to upgrading, but with the expanded midi implementation, i gotta trick out my mpc.
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By `TK Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:49 pm
Im also looking for a good interface with 8 or 10 ins

If anyone know anything, this would be very appericiated

`TK

JJ Os V 5.35

By 1-2-3-4 Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:47 am
HI,

recording the MPC?
Yes I do!
I use a fireface 400 (RME) with a connected ADAT extension from Behringer (ULTRAGAIN PRO-8 DIGITAL ADA8000). The RME has 8 analog inputs, which would be enought to record the MPC, but there are other synth to be recorded so I choose the 8 ch adat extension to record the MPC. Works fine, but did take time to find out which adat extension really works other testet adat ad/da converter did not work reliable.
The RME is very reliable, small .. a good tool!!

I.

By CHUCKI BUDDHA Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:51 am
on the 2500 the sound does come out different when u separate to individual outs. try it and see.
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By `TK Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:00 pm
so ?

we can restore that in PT
when i record a beat ima remove all fx and master i did in the mpc
then redo the whole beat in PT

By Mike Feedback Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:13 pm
CHUCKI BUDDHA wrote:on the 2500 the sound does come out different when u separate to individual outs. try it and see.


http://www.mikefeedback.com/MPC2500/Comparison/Outputs.zip

my thoughts...

i don't think there's a real difference in sound quality. the volume is certainly lower when you use the stereo outputs, but you can compensate by adjusting the mixer level in the mpc or the input level on whatever you're recording into as i did in the files above.

all outputs (individual and stereo) produced waveforms with slightly different dynamics, but i think this is more due to the D/A and A/D converters on the MPC and MBox rather than the outputs themselves. just recording from the same output two times in a row could end up with waveforms that aren't exact because when you convert from digital to analog and then back to digital, you aren't going to end up with an exact copy of the original source like you would if you had stayed within the digital realm the whole time.

but don't take my word for it, decide for yourself.
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By `TK Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:03 am
thanks,

i dont hear any big diff