can i time stretch a whole program at one time

i chopped up a sample and assigned all the chops to pads in a program

i wanna lower the bpm's so for it to flow right i need to time stretch each chop a little

can i stretch the whole program or do i have to stretch each sample individually?

or is there a better way to do it?

time stretching is a function of trim mode and has nothing to do with the program, so no, you can't time stretch a whole program. you would either have to time stretch each sample individually, or time stretch the original sample and re-chop.

MODE + PAD11

make sure SAMPLE [F1 button] is selected

make sure the right PROGRAM is selected up on the top of the screen

move the cursor over to the TUNE field of the samples

press F6 button to select WHOLE (entire program banks A-D will become selected)

change the TUNE manually

it will apply to the entire program

^^

That ain't nothing to do with timeSTRETCHING

no, you can't timestretch the whole program at one time, you'll have to stretch each sample manually...

With OS2 it shoul be possible using nondestructive chop: what happens to your "sub chop" if you time stretch the original sample?

Yes but you'll have to stretch the sample before you put the non destructive chop-mode on, cause when NDC is on you cant use the trim stuff as timestretch, convert to mono, reverse etc...

Mike Feedback wrote:time stretching is a function of trim mode and has nothing to do with the program, so no, you can't time stretch a whole program. you would either have to time stretch each sample individually, or time stretch the original sample and re-chop.

not really true, patched phrases can to this to a 'whole program'.

arebee wrote:

Mike Feedback wrote:time stretching is a function of trim mode and has nothing to do with the program, so no, you can't time stretch a whole program. you would either have to time stretch each sample individually, or time stretch the original sample and re-chop.

not really true, patched phrases can to this to a 'whole program'.

where do you get that from?

a patched phrase sample is simply a single sample that has been non-destructively chopped into "phrases" that each get triggered in order according to the tempo. it's still just one sample which should in no way be confused with a "whole program".

Mike Feedback wrote:a patched phrase sample is simply a single sample that has been non-destructively chopped into "phrases" that each get triggered in order according to the tempo. it's still just one sample which should in no way be confused with a "whole program".

That is true, unless the patched phrase is in fact used as the "whole program" with no other samples.

elektrik_muz wrote:

Mike Feedback wrote:a patched phrase sample is simply a single sample that has been non-destructively chopped into "phrases" that each get triggered in order according to the tempo. it's still just one sample which should in no way be confused with a "whole program".

That is true, unless the patched phrase is in fact used as the "whole program" with no other samples.

sorry yeah - i was thinking in simple terms of ' i have a break , its all there is in my program, therefore i can stretch my whole program'....sorry for being misleading, i forget other people probably fill their progs with about a million different samples,but in this case at least..... PP's can be put to work in this way - and if there are enough fragments in the pp, they dont really sound like they "get triggered in order according to the tempo", they sound more stretched than the original to me

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arebee wrote:sorry yeah - i was thinking in simple terms of ' i have a break , its all there is in my program, therefore i can stretch my whole program'....sorry for being misleading, i forget other people probably fill their progs with about a million different samples,but in this case at least..... PP's can be put to work in this way

if this dude had just one sample in his program, he wouldn't be asking if there was a way to time stretch all the samples in the program or if he had to timestretch each sample one by one.

arebee wrote:and if there are enough fragments in the pp, they dont really sound like they "get triggered in order according to the tempo", they sound more stretched than the original to me

straight out of the mpc2500 manual:

"PATCHED PHRASE" is one sample which has the divided regions and the sequence data for playing the divided regions.

i think it's just the release that's added to the end of each phrase that is leading you to believe that the sound is "stretched". if you divide it into enough regions, the release is in effect doing something similar to what time stretching would do.

Mike Feedback wrote:

arebee wrote:sorry yeah - i was thinking in simple terms of ' i have a break , its all there is in my program, therefore i can stretch my whole program'....sorry for being misleading, i forget other people probably fill their progs with about a million different samples,but in this case at least..... PP's can be put to work in this way

if this dude had just one sample in his program, he wouldn't be asking if there was a way to time stretch all the samples in the program or if he had to timestretch each sample one by one.

arebee wrote:and if there are enough fragments in the pp, they dont really sound like they "get triggered in order according to the tempo", they sound more stretched than the original to me

straight out of the mpc2500 manual:

"PATCHED PHRASE" is one sample which has the divided regions and the sequence data for playing the divided regions.

i think it's just the release that's added to the end of each phrase that is leading you to believe that the sound is "stretched". if you divide it into enough regions, the release is in effect doing something similar to what time stretching would do.

yes thats right.
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