OS2XL, I have Ghost trigging in PROG mode, anybody else ?

Hello,

MPC1K, JJOS2XL ( 3.33 )

i have the same PROG running since 2-3 weeks ( without powering the unit off )
i often have ghost triggers. Never had this bevore.

= i do nothing on the MPC, no sequenzer running, but sometimes a pad/sound begins to play in loopmode, playing endlessly.
The Program consists mostly of loops, some single shots, NO pad is set to LOOP&HOLD,
all pads are set to HOLD ON, the samples itself are mostly set to loop.

sounds like a bug ?
or could i have the MPC overloaded ? ( no sequenzing donne, only 1-2 PROGs, nothing else programmed )( 25 % RAM used )
very annoying as i play with two MPCs and record, both allways open on the mixer.
sometimes the ghost trigging is very often, every 1-2 minutes or even more, sometimes much less, every 10 or 20 minutes i´d guess. hard to say
anybody else has this problem

Did you just say you left your unit on and running for two weeks?

punkydoodle wrote:running since 2-3 weeks ( without powering the unit off )

WOW no licence?

Endless looping in that setting might be the cause of some buttons and pads glitching (trigger itself).

Sounds like an issue caused by the RAM to me.

What you can do is turn off the unit, update to the latest version, do a RAM test if you wish and come back in 3 weeks, one month to keep us updated

le rat wrote:Sounds like an issue caused by the RAM to me.
do a RAM test if you wish

ok, thats an answer. Thanks
can i make a RAM test within the MPC ?


the unit was off now 1-2 days.
just right now its worser than ever with the ghost trigging


for the others:
2 weeks on is nothing.
some people run their studio 24Hrs/7days on power over years

it can happen here that one or both MPCs are not shut down for several days or even 1-2 weeks, in the worst maybe 3 weeks,
thats when i have work in progress that is not saved.
only doing this in wintertime though.
yes, with license on both 1Ks ofcourse. JJOS is worth every cent, isn´t it ?

You can make a RAM test (MPC1K) by holding START at boot.

Before checking the hardware, I suggest upgrading to the latest version and resetting all the parameters.

You can have a look inside the MPC and check all the connections too.
Is this happening on other modes than PROGRAM? If yes, it could be an issue with the pads. If no, I still think it could be an issue with memory.

If the problem persists and nothing gets better, it's probably a board inside the MPC that is slowly dying.

punkydoodle wrote:

le rat wrote:for the others:
2 weeks on is nothing.
some people run their studio 24Hrs/7days on power over years

But does Dr.Dre ever mention how many MPC 3000's he burned up.


And thats a bigger machine with more fans and room inside, it just doesn't seem like a good idea for the relatively more tightly packed 1000.

I know that mine can get warm and even start to act a little strange the same night after a few hours.

But yeah like Le Rat said, a faulty stick can do weird things.
Take the stick out.

(BTW: I'm pretty sure heat buildup can damage a mem stick.)

ThobRom wrote:But does Dr.Dre ever mention how many MPC 3000's he burned up.


And thats a bigger machine with more fans and room inside

No fans in an MPC3000.

I've never owned one myself.

Always out of my price range back in the day, and by the time the price started coming down the CF MPC's defeated the purpose of getting one from a strictly functional POV.

Do they look like an MPC60 or 2000 inside?
Lots of room for airflow and ventilation?

ThobRom wrote:Do they look like an MPC60 or 2000 inside?
Lots of room for airflow and ventilation?

The internal layout is very similar to the MPC60.

Isn't the guts of a 2500 basically the same as a 1000?

The 2500 seems to have vents in the case at the top.
Presumably to help vent heat?

Anyways it just seems like a questionable habit that might be okay for the DrDre's of the world who cant be bothered to have to reboot their machine and can afford to throw them out and get another one if it melts.

But hey, its all about the music you make.
If leaving it on gets your groove back, leave it on then.

I don't see the point in leaving it on for weeks, just save and reload, it doesn't take that long.

I had a buddy who had all the equipment back in the day, Tone Capone the guy who did "I got 5 on it", and he used to leave his stuff on overnight sometimes because he had all these different keyboards and stuff synced up the old fashioned way and it was a lot of effort to redo everything. But I think a few days was the limit without letting everything cool down.

I'm not sure how relevant that is anymore these days with modern equipment that can save all your settings and boot them all back up without much hassle.

le rat wrote:You can make a RAM test (MPC1K) by holding START at boot.

Before checking the hardware, I suggest upgrading to the latest version and resetting all the parameters.

Is this happening on other modes than PROGRAM? .

update donne a few days back.
RAM test luckily donne, 2 times, no problems.
The Problem exists only in PROG mode.

one thing, in the past, having a pad looping but not knowing which one was set to loop,
i could press play and then stop, and any running pad/sample was stopped.
Since this problem occours pressing start/stop isn´t helping.
even changing to REcord window isn´t helping, nor changing to AUDIOedit Window .
when i change to another PROG then the playing sample is stopped.

i have two 1Ks, i will change RAM from the second unit to the first one to check,
but probably waiting some weeks.
need funds, will get me a black screen. doing then all at once

Much Thanks for the help !

In regards to temperature which would be a own topic though.
Having my MPC running from noon till late in summer is heating up the unit more than having it run several days in winter IIRC.
In summer they get hot.

in regards to "quickly" save.
Lol, sometimes i just have to go to sleep, things not finished.
saving to a TEMP folder usually means i never will come back to that work
keeping the unit on is my workaround in that sense to force me to save the recordings bevore i can record something new.
MPC1K is my only recorder.
( i cut to loops or chopping up files, not doing songs )