X0X style input?

hey, what do yall think of roland style beat programming? like with the 16 buttons that represent 16th notes in a 4/4 measure, and you plunk on steps to put events in or take them out... you could even set velocity or flam before hand. if the pattern was longer than 1 measure, you could just rotate view until you were on the measure where you intended to make a change. simple stuff really. i say it would add a new facet to the appeal of the mpc line, and perhaps set a precedent for future akai hardware.

i never fell in love with that style of drum programming
but i bet it would be good for more synth programming/etc

i mentioned that as a featurerequest to the JJ a few months ago. maybe someone should suggest it again.
the 808style programming is a very fast and intuitive way of stepprogramming.
now wheres that feature request thread?
*edit typo*
keyboards **** up

Yea, that would be nice...
JJ could probably borrow from the nanoloop interface for this...

I use that method all the time. I prefer to have the actual hardware buttons w/chaser lights thou (which is not like using fruity loops).

Having some type of approximation on the MPC is a good idea thou, I don't discourage it.

that would be a neat feature.

I think step programming is the exact contrast to the rhythmic, organic, mpc-programming. it would be cool if you could select this for drums in the grid edit

bank A could be steps 1 to 16, Bank B 16 to 32... you'll get it .

one tap and the step is on, another, and its off, a third and its on with the
new velocity value.

but entering midi notes with different pitch values would be another story

JJ, go for it !

since i never got into this style (esp in reason with the redrum, i never dug that) i feel like i'm sleeping.

what does this offer that grid-style recording on the jj mpc does not? ie, i found that the grid pushed me to very bouncy drums. what might i find myself noticing using xoxbox style programming?

this technique of stepprogramming would work exellent with the mpcpad config since the rows of pads are grouped in 4.

it's a quite different thing using the that technique with reason or rebirth since it most def need 16 physical pads to come to its full potential.
clicking on a screen is'nt even close to the same thing.
i acutally miss this method of beatprogamming more than the actual sound of my long gone tr909.
better send the JJ note in this matter and hope it's possible to throw in as a new feature.

hmm. well its more visual lol and you can change the grid value to insert a triplet... you can go right to the place where you need a change instead of waiting for it to roll around again.

its a better alternative to full level programming... would make this box very attractive to users of those X0X style sequencers like the rm1x and rs7000, xl7, mp7 etc. making them less of a temptation haha!

its not a must but would be cool if it didnt get in the way.

Antonym wrote:since i never got into this style (esp in reason with the redrum, i never dug that) i feel like i'm sleeping.

what does this offer that grid-style recording on the jj mpc does not? ie, i found that the grid pushed me to very bouncy drums. what might i find myself noticing using xoxbox style programming?

I think that depends on each person. Generally, it encourages you to come up with different rhythms than you would otherwise. So it expands your creative potential. Different mindset= different rhythms.

For me, i find that the grid makes me more likely to experiment with little rolls or fills, where the same drum might hit 2x/3x in a row; for some reason my hands don't do that naturally on the pads.

Think of it as a different person on the beats-- you know how they say, if you use your left hand, it'll be like doing it with someone else .

uh... what you mean, jack?

just like mpcs push you towards boom bap, xox seqencers push you towards house type beats.

Mr modnaR wrote:just like mpcs push you towards boom bap, xox seqencers push you towards house type beats.

this is true, though it's still easy to make house music on an mpc.
X0X sequencing definitely makes things more intricate and quicker, especially for techno.
So I wouldn't mind XOX type sequencing on the MPC at all, since that's how I started out back in the day. But if this feauture doesnt get added, I'm still very happy with Grid Edit to prgram notes that would be impossible to bang out in real-time at certain BPM ranges.

I like the grid editor JJ made
If i wanted to make beats like i did "back in the day" id break out impulse tracker and a speak N spell..

I think that depends on each person. Generally, it encourages you to come up with different rhythms than you would otherwise. So it expands your creative potential. Different mindset= different rhythms.

see this is what i need
i'm a grid child
before that i was a step edit toddler
previously a acid grid/reason sequencer baby
*degree of infancy determined not by tools used but by level of experience at each stage

it'd be nice to have an option for something new, especially if it would push me closer to a more quantised, electronic sound. that's something i'm missing with the grid - i can never keep from fking with swing because it is so intuitive, i just keep fking with it til i make all the notes have leaning grooves

an spxox sequencer may help because in breakdowns or when songs start, sometimes it's real catchy to load an older drum machine sounds (or make your own simple percussion) and get real quantised with it while the melody enters the next corridor

it seems like a pretty simple thing, i mean most the code looks like it was already written (time correction, stuff like record, overdub). it's just a different way of graphically viewing it

damn man
cool idea.