6 out feature request

OS2 is where thats at.

cozy wrote:

Forax wrote:why don't you keep everything set to the stereo outs and run the stuff you want to track to outputs 1 & 2 which are hooked up to your recorder

i do keep everything set to the stereo outs as i build a track up. but when its time to mix it, i record each individual track to the daw. i do run the sounds out 1 & 2, and 3 & 4, and L & R. but when you set pad a1 of xyz program to L and pad a2 of xyz program to R, and go to track it, everything that is not set to 1,2,3, or 4 will play through L & R (the stereo outputs). so you have to go to every program that is being used and go to gpe, hit whole, hit out, scroll to level and turn the jogwheel to 0. if L & R deactivated ST, it would happen automatically. try it and you will see.

okay i see what you mean.. if you have to mute sounds going through ST while using the stereo left and right as their own individual tracks then I assume it means you have more stuff to track than will fit in a single pass using all 6 outs? so you do multiple plays of your sequence and line them up in the computer?

Forax wrote:

cozy wrote:

Forax wrote:why don't you keep everything set to the stereo outs and run the stuff you want to track to outputs 1 & 2 which are hooked up to your recorder

i do keep everything set to the stereo outs as i build a track up. but when its time to mix it, i record each individual track to the daw. i do run the sounds out 1 & 2, and 3 & 4, and L & R. but when you set pad a1 of xyz program to L and pad a2 of xyz program to R, and go to track it, everything that is not set to 1,2,3, or 4 will play through L & R (the stereo outputs). so you have to go to every program that is being used and go to gpe, hit whole, hit out, scroll to level and turn the jogwheel to 0. if L & R deactivated ST, it would happen automatically. try it and you will see.

okay i see what you mean.. if you have to mute sounds going through ST while using the stereo left and right as their own individual tracks then I assume it means you have more stuff to track than will fit in a single pass using all 6 outs? so you do multiple plays of your sequence and line them up in the computer?

well what i do is track each drum to a seperate track, depending on the situation of course, then the bassline and main sample to their own seperate tracks. and any other little sounds to their own tracks. i dont line them up manually though. they line up on their own because i slave the mpc to pro tools via my digi 02 or mbox 2 pro.

and i sequence the whole song in song mode, so i would basically do kick, snare, closed hat, open hat, ride, bassline, the whole song in one take. then record the main sample, stabs, reverses, synthlines, whatever on the next take.

cozy wrote:way to read the post.

i asked if jj could implement some code or whatever that when you set a pad/program to l or r or lr it could automatically mute all pads set to st instead of having to go to all other tracks and mute the pads that you dont want to record out of the stereo outs. that does not happen.

the post was only 5 lines man. reread it.

peace

No, you reread your post. I understand your point about the left and right mute situation, but your original question could possibly be interpreted as though you didn't know if each* of the following things listed were already implemented:

"i was thinking that if you were tracking, you set tracks 1-4 to outputs 1-4 mono. then tracks 5 and 6 to l and r. when you set sounds to l and r or even lr, it automatically mutes all of the tracks set to st. "

It seemed as though you were asking if all these features were things you could do (1-4 mono foe example)

It's no big deal. Shit gets misunderstood through text easily. It wasn't a flame. A flame would be "read the f*ckin manual chump" or somethin of that sort.

Depending what OS you have, I would simply just deal with the issue and use the track mixer as already recommended (not the normal program mixer, which is a hassle). Since you put your sounds each on their own track the track mixer would make more sense and continue to simply use the track mute screen to mute tracks not in use.

Akai should have implemented the track mixer the minute they dropped the 2000xl on the market since you can use multiple programs simultaneously. Ensoniq has a mixer based on the sequence tracks that works very well also. I use it all the time with my eps16+.

But yea, I'd say
-acquire an OS that uses the track mixer
-send tracks to outputs and mute those not needed as opposed to going in and muting individual pads (hella annoying)
-keep using midi sync and making passes

I only say this 'cause I doubt JJ is gonna do anything about it.

cozy wrote:well what i do is track each drum to a seperate track, depending on the situation of course, then the bassline and main sample to their own seperate tracks. and any other little sounds to their own tracks. i dont line them up manually though. they line up on their own because i slave the mpc to pro tools via my digi 02 or mbox 2 pro.

and i sequence the whole song in song mode, so i would basically do kick, snare, closed hat, open hat, ride, bassline, the whole song in one take. then record the main sample, stabs, reverses, synthlines, whatever on the next take.

This is exactly what I do when building a track as well, and then I track it all separately in a DAW to get a great mix.
FYI, how did you slave your MPC? I am guessing MIDI, and turning some slave function on. This is probably something that is obvious if I was on my MPC and looked, but I am not right now. LOL.

JaeOne3345 wrote:Depending what OS you have, I would simply just deal with the issue and use the track mixer as already recommended (not the normal program mixer, which is a hassle). Since you put your sounds each on their own track the track mixer would make more sense and continue to simply use the track mute screen to mute tracks not in use.

Akai should have implemented the track mixer the minute they dropped the 2000xl on the market since you can use multiple programs simultaneously. Ensoniq has a mixer based on the sequence tracks that works very well also. I use it all the time with my eps16+.

But yea, I'd say
-acquire an OS that uses the track mixer
-send tracks to outputs and mute those not needed as opposed to going in and muting individual pads (hella annoying)
-keep using midi sync and making passes

I only say this 'cause I doubt JJ is gonna do anything about it.

+1. This is a great idea, and pretty simple for tracking from a hardware sequencer into a computer.

objektivone wrote:

cozy wrote:well what i do is track each drum to a seperate track, depending on the situation of course, then the bassline and main sample to their own seperate tracks. and any other little sounds to their own tracks. i dont line them up manually though. they line up on their own because i slave the mpc to pro tools via my digi 02 or mbox 2 pro.

and i sequence the whole song in song mode, so i would basically do kick, snare, closed hat, open hat, ride, bassline, the whole song in one take. then record the main sample, stabs, reverses, synthlines, whatever on the next take.

This is exactly what I do when building a track as well, and then I track it all separately in a DAW to get a great mix.
FYI, how did you slave your MPC? I am guessing MIDI, and turning some slave function on. This is probably something that is obvious if I was on my MPC and looked, but I am not right now. LOL.

to slave the mpc you go into the midi screen of the mpc and set it to be the slave and to the correct port. then you go into your daw and set it up as the master. in pt you have to go into options/midi/input device(i think) and select your output port. i think thats the path in pt. i cant open it right now.

JJ's mixer makes you laugh everytime you look at the Akai mixer by mistake.

So far I'm loving XL, with a few tweaks it's gonna kill.

yea os 2xl does rock... what ive been doing is using my 6 outs thru mixers to get a solid 2 track going... when i get an computer (again) then ill mess around with an interface... looking at motu? dont know. that mixer feature is where its at tho on xl....

The track mixer has been included since the standard OS2 software was released.