Filter Envelope Release stage does not work in 1.47 or 2.06

elmacaco wrote:No sapporro for JJ. Motherfvcker took the release parameter away in oneshot mode on filter envelope! But the amp envelope has a release and it is very useful with looped samples. The problem with using the decay is that on longer samples it kicks in before the sample is done.

How I would like it to work is for the release stage to kick in after the sample reaches the end of playback and then as it loops around the release can fade out the filter at a different rate than the amp stage. This is how the amp envelope works in oneshot mode.

I guess I'll just have to use note on and hold the pad like I have nothing better to do.

FWIW, this is how it's "supposed" to work with a traditional ADSR. Sustain only kicks in if you are still holding the key, and release doesn't kick in until you release the key. What would be really tight, not just for loops but also for drum hits, is if JJ added a "hold" stage between attack and decay. AHDSR or just AHD on oneshots.

elmacaco wrote:No sapporro for JJ. Motherfvcker took the release parameter away in oneshot mode on filter envelope!

It was never there...

True mp3. But it should be. Grantb, oneshot envelopes should be like the hold stage you talk about. Oneshot plays the sample straight through, so it is like having the gate high for the duration of the sample, release should kick in after "one shot" of the sample, hence after it loops once. Not sure a separate hold stage would be as useful. Looks like few people use the filter env on drum oneshots anyway.

+1 for "hold" option.
however i am wary of new parameters
would be great if there could be a 3rd class besides "oneshot" and "note on" called "duration"
where you could set the per-pad duration of the intended note.

this is in effect a "hold" without dramatically changing the current envelope settings
and it would make everyone happy.

an extra bonus would be that you could freely edit these per-pad durations in step/grid edit afterwards.

so if pad 01 was a sample with a filter envelope you could set it to "duration=96"
it'd record just as if it was a NOTEON pad played for 96 ticks every time you strike it.

this would also play very nicely with tempo changes. if your filter envelope releases were rhythmic, you wouldn't lose that when you change tempos.

this is leaps and bounds better than just tacking an H into our envelopes i think

well since some of yall seem to suffer chronic fatigue i emailed murai about this.
he said jj would look at it next.
rhythmic, dynamic filter envelopes here we come....hopefully...

Did you email him about the filter env release in oneshot mode kicking in after the sample loops once? Sustain time would be dope too, but you would need it in amp env too.

Thanks crothers.