Nondestructive chopping! Whoa!

cyrus wrote:its a little late for april fools day aint it? wtf planet have you guys been on? do you even own mpc's? WTF.

glad you found NDC but you been sleepin on that **** for a while.

all jokes a side
its the best for those big samples. ive sort of changed my workflow to sample the entire song now instead of just chunks. that way i can use NDC and go back and get more if i need to instead of having to remember what vinyl i got the sample from, etc.

also, the workflow i use now is:

load up huge sample, turn NDC on, create new program, go directly to pgm mode, use shift to select all samples, turn all chops to mono, turn all chops to use mute group 1. then i go back to trim mode, hit program button, adjust my chops in program mode so i can have the pitch effect the chop while i adjust start and end points. i should do a video, its mega fast and insane chopping abilities.

i've had the mpc for a while but i bought xl only a few months ago. i'm still very new to all the features on there that were not on the free version.


speaking of my noobiness, i'm having a little trouble with NDC. i've loaded a big sample and chopped it to high heaven using NDC but there's loads of the sample i do not wish to keep. what is the most effective way of deleting the bits 'in-between'? i will give it a bash once i get back on the mpc, but thought i will ask you guys either way incase you have some pro tips

I know what you mean by the bits inbetween. As far as I know there is no way to get rid of them for good inside NDC (to free up memoryspace I guess??), since it's NON destructive. If the bits you want to get rid of are in the Start or End of the sample you could just trim them off, but you may heve to re-NDC the whole thing afterwards.
Hope this answers ur question..

Yes NDC is a nice feature on my Casio FZ1 (build in 1988. first 16bit sampler on the market ) and I think the EPS users also like it
Yes its really a shame that all these years no akai nor emu sampler had that feature.



peace

-niN wrote:I know what you mean by the bits inbetween. As far as I know there is no way to get rid of them for good inside NDC (to free up memoryspace I guess??), since it's NON destructive. If the bits you want to get rid of are in the Start or End of the sample you could just trim them off, but you may heve to re-NDC the whole thing afterwards.
Hope this answers ur question..

lol, thanks man. still haven't had the chance to try it out i've been so busy. if i find a way to make our lives easier then i'll let ya know!

is it possible with NDC (or any other way) to program a sample to reverse within a sequence? i'm coming from renoise and i love how you can, say, have a single drum loop going and instantly reverse the loop from the exact position within the loop (ie, the reverse playback doesn't default to start or end of the loop, nor do you have to save a separate reversed version of the sample). hopefully that makes sense

22tape wrote:is it possible with NDC (or any other way) to program a sample to reverse within a sequence? i'm coming from renoise and i love how you can, say, have a single drum loop going and instantly reverse the loop from the exact position within the loop (ie, the reverse playback doesn't default to start or end of the loop, nor do you have to save a separate reversed version of the sample). hopefully that makes sense

You can change any pad in a program to reverse as your sequence is playing but reverse only triggers at note on, not halfway through playing the sample.

would also be cool if you could have the chops play sequentially in a loop every time you hit the pad, or is this already possible by using other functions?

The chops are layed out sequentially for you to play in whatever order you want, so I'm not sure there is much of a benefit to a single pad triggering the full loop.

It wouldn't work with my stuff anyway cause the end points of my chops with NDC are messy.

Coz wrote:The chops are layed out sequentially for you to play in whatever order you want, so I'm not sure there is much of a benefit to a single pad triggering the full loop.

oh, I did not mean the fool loop. Lemme give you an example: Say you take a snare and sample it by hitting it ten times. Now you make ten chops and assign the full sample i.e. all 10 chops to one pad, but when you hit the pad it will play the chops sequentially (or even better randomly), i.e. hit the pad, it plays the first chop, hit the pad again it plays the second chop, and so on in a loop, this way it does not sound like you're playing the same sample every time.

astronaut wrote:

Coz wrote:The chops are layed out sequentially for you to play in whatever order you want, so I'm not sure there is much of a benefit to a single pad triggering the full loop.

oh, I did not mean the fool loop. Lemme give you an example: Say you take a snare and sample it by hitting it ten times. Now you make ten chops and assign the full sample i.e. all 10 chops to one pad, but when you hit the pad it will play the chops sequentially (or even better randomly), i.e. hit the pad, it plays the first chop, hit the pad again it plays the second chop, and so on in a loop, this way it does not sound like you're playing the same sample every time.

That's called round robin. Do a search it was discussed recently.

cyrus wrote:its a little late for april fools day aint it? wtf planet have you guys been on? do you even own mpc's? WTF.

glad you found NDC but you been sleepin on that **** for a while.

all jokes a side
its the best for those big samples. ive sort of changed my workflow to sample the entire song now instead of just chunks. that way i can use NDC and go back and get more if i need to instead of having to remember what vinyl i got the sample from, etc.

also, the workflow i use now is:

load up huge sample, turn NDC on, create new program, go directly to pgm mode, use shift to select all samples, turn all chops to mono, turn all chops to use mute group 1. then i go back to trim mode, hit program button, adjust my chops in program mode so i can have the pitch effect the chop while i adjust start and end points. i should do a video, its mega fast and insane chopping abilities.

what do u mean by pitch effect??? i finally figured out my own workflow of NDC thats prolly diff from everyone else's.A video would be great by the way! any chance??

cozy wrote:
....I just want to say **** Akai. If JJ can make this happen along wight the rest of the features, in a relatively short period of time (it's been like 4 or 5 years since JJ os has drooped right?). Why couldnt they do it for their own machine? That's horrible business.

Ok, rants over.

Peace

The dumbest comments on these sites is all the "**** Akai" comments. The bottom line is you are using an "Akai MPC" regardless of who owns the company now. Stating the obvious...you can't use the JJ OS without an Akai MPC. I haven't look into the financial situation Akai/Nurmak/Alesis, but I don't believe any of our forums members can run these businesses successfully. As a business major myself..if I ran this company, why would I put resources into developing the OS of the MPC 1000 when 2.0 is pretty solid and a 3rd party (who played a significant role in developing the Akai OS 2.0) is putting out updates frequently (at no cost to my company)? I would say that is a pretty good business model. It would be "excellent" business model if Akai and JJ had an "official" relationship and they advertised the OS on the Akai website. These are just my opinions.

created video and uploading now.

related thread: posting.php?mode=reply&f=25&t=146183

video on NDC: http://youtu.be/Z8W-MHxgERM

cyrus wrote:related thread: posting.php?mode=reply&f=25&t=146183

video on NDC: http://youtu.be/Z8W-MHxgERM

I apologize in advance if some parts are too fast to read the text. but you can just pause that shit.....

peace